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This thread will be useful to the few who run an i3 with a single GPU setup. The point that you made (that I've bolded) about how the GPU was the limiting factor should be obvious to everyone! I think it's common knowledge that, at higher resolutions and settings maxed, the GPU becomes the limiting factor. No one doubted this! The point is that there are people out there who go for the single GPU setup with an i7, and this thread "proves" that there is little to no reason for this, considering the i3 can give you close-to-the-same performance.

EDIT Forgot to thank the OP for such an informative review. Thanks OP!
The reason I said it is because a many people in this thread were curious as to why the i3 was neck and neck with the i7 in many of these. I know it should be common knowledge but it should help anyone who was curious.
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Weird I totally wasnt expecting the result to be so close in most cases. I bought my e6750 when the q6600 was hitting, as none of the games really took advantage of the extra cores at the time. I'm pretty damn surprised and annoyed that things havent really changed.
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Hmm, since everyone is so interested, I'll redo with 4.2 and i'll do a HT on and off. Hope thats enough, don't have a third ram stick though so dual channel only.
Doesn't really make much of a difference tbh.
    
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"I came, I raged, I conquered."

Good thing I didn't see the fire.
Keep the good work Metallic.
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The reason I make the argument about 4.2GHz vs. 4.0GHz is that your trying to eliminate as many variables as possible. Sure its fairly common for i3's to hit 4.2, but its fairly common for i7's to hit that as well. Just saying, if your going to the trouble of using the same os, same drivers, same video card, turning off the HT on the i7, then overclocking them to the same speed should be in there as well. Not trying to bash the thread, its a fairly well done review, and not even saying that the .2ghz would make much a difference, just rooting for equality on all ends
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I like the original testing methodology. As OCers we need to know the max potential of the chip. Clock for clock comparisons have their place, but when I go to make a decision I want to know how it will perform at or near its peak. 4.2GHz i3 vs 4GHz i7 is a good avg OC. I might have done 4.5GHz i3 vs 4.2GHz i7, but that's just b/c of my own personal experience w/ both platforms.

It seems some folks want triple-channel tested and HT-on tested for i7, but want to gimp the i3 by holding back it's strength which is higher clock speed potential. Triple-Chanel will add nothing to the scores...I don't even think 1fps. I doubt HT will add anything either, and may reduce scores a bit as mentioned earlier. The i7 has more cache and more cores, so those are it's advantages in gaming. i3 has clock speed advantage. Let each chip shine in its own way!
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I like the original testing methodology. As OCers we need to know the max potential of the chip. Clock for clock comparisons have their place, but when I go to make a decision I want to know how it will perform at or near its peak. 4.2GHz i3 vs 4GHz i7 is a good avg OC. I might have done 4.5GHz i3 vs 4.2GHz i7, but that's just b/c of my own personal experience w/ both platforms.

It seems some folks want triple-channel tested and HT-on tested for i7, but want to gimp the i3 by holding back it's strength which is higher clock speed potential. Triple-Chanel will add nothing to the scores...I don't even think 1fps. I doubt HT will add anything either, and may reduce scores a bit as mentioned earlier. The i7 has more cache and more cores, so those are it's advantages in gaming. i3 has clock speed advantage. Let each chip shine in its own way!

Why not both. Have a test with each chip at its max potential, have another test with things more fair.
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I like the original testing methodology. As OCers we need to know the max potential of the chip. Clock for clock comparisons have their place, but when I go to make a decision I want to know how it will perform at or near its peak. 4.2GHz i3 vs 4GHz i7 is a good avg OC. I might have done 4.5GHz i3 vs 4.2GHz i7, but that's just b/c of my own personal experience w/ both platforms.

It seems some folks want triple-channel tested and HT-on tested for i7, but want to gimp the i3 by holding back it's strength which is higher clock speed potential. Triple-Chanel will add nothing to the scores...I don't even think 1fps. I doubt HT will add anything either, and may reduce scores a bit as mentioned earlier. The i7 has more cache and more cores, so those are it's advantages in gaming. i3 has clock speed advantage. Let each chip shine in its own way!
The problem with testing with that methodology is that every chip clocks differently, some i7 920's cant go past 3.5ghz, while other i7's easily go to 4.6 - 4.7ghz, testing clock for clock is the safest way to show chip vs. chip because no matter what you've eliminated a variable, you can say that chip a is faster than chip b in this situation instead of having another variable to contend with. Science is about taking out as many variables and seeing what happens in a set of circumstances.
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Test the chips and GPUs at stock and then OC. That's what most reviews do.
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