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Please keep in mind HyperThreading was off and i will not get results with it enabled because it doesn't make much of a difference, if any,
In those titles.

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and that's an end of it. Please keep it clean, this is meant to be an informative thread for those who would find this useful. Thanks.[/B][/SIZE]
It seems like more of an attempt to try and prove some point about a dual core CPU and games that it can run well.

Lets see how well it pushes twin GTX 570's or 6970's at 1600P.
Or games like BC2, Crysis, and GTA with the settings maxed at 1200P - 1600P.
There are many cases where a 3 or 4 core CPU has a big advantage but many of them are, it seems, strategically avoided.

Your benchmarks are mostly isolated games that run well on 2 cores or near it, and for some reason it comes across on purpose and kind of like "there I told you so".
You haven't proved or changed anything.

Not trying to criticize or rant just saying. I am not the only one picking up on this.
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^If I can get my hands on an 8xx series i7 i'll do that, though the performance isn't very different and in most cases the 8xx outperform the 920 because their stock clocks are higher. At the same clocks they perform about the same it seems. The only main difference is dual and tripple channel memory and that doesn't make too much of a difference.
+ integrated memory controller and pcie lanes........
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+ integrated memory controller and pcie lanes........
Thats true but in most games i've seen with benchmarks between the two (although at stock) they perform about the same and sometimes the 920 loses because of its lesser clock speeds. But overall they would perform about the same. The only downside is that the i7 8xx CPUs are pretty overpriced here and I would have loved to get my hands on a 875k but the price is stupid and I got this 920 and motherboard for a really good price overall. If you're on a P55/H55 then the 800 i7s are the way to go. Almost the same, really.

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In those titles.
No, in general HT shows no improvement in performance in most games. I don't understand why you keep insisting I get results for the i7 with HT enabled. I can understand it would seem more fair, as the i3 is running HT. However the HT feature for the i3 helps it as some games do run better in quads and HT gives it extra performance but it doesn't do much for the i7. Obviously you wouldn't take my word for it, but another user did a comparisson that you can take a look at for yourself here.

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It seems like more of an attempt to try and prove some meaningless point about a little dual core CPU and games that it can run well.

Lets see how well it pushes twin GTX 570's or 6970's at 1600P.
Again, it really depends on the game. There are a few people here (check the i3 owners thread) who are running CF/SLI with an i3 without any issues and they seem to be happy. Those who can afford 2 high-end graphics cards and monitors capable of 1600p or beyond would be able to afford a higher-end cpu to go along with them. If I had a second GTX 570 or 6950/70 I would've tested CF/SLI for curiosity but i don't. I could run 3 GTX 470s (or 2) but the motherboard can't do SLI and there is no point in me spending money on a Tri-SLI capable P55 motherboard when we can all take a guess and say that the i3 won't perform as well as the i7. There is no point in stating tie obvious.

No offense intended but you don't seem to understand the reason of this thread so i'll explain. Its not about "i3 beats i7" - But rather i did this because there would obviously be many who wouldn't be able to afford an X58 or similar setup and the i3+H55 combo is a lot cheaper overall and there are not many (if any?) reviews or comparissons between an i7 and i3 both overclocked to near, or the, same levels. None that i have seen at least. I hope that helps you understand that this is just to show how these 2 different platforms perform in some of the games today on a single graphics card. Obviously had i turned down the settings to medium or low, the i7 would get much higher framerates, but then you would ask yourself, that who would a powerful graphics card would run these games on medium or low? Thus it is much more realistic to have results for games at their highest (or most playable) settings to show what sort of performance people could expect to get.

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Your benchmarks are mostly isolated games that run well on 2 cores or near it, and for some reason it comes across on purpose and kind of like "there I told you so".
You haven't proved or changed anything. Not trying to criticize or rant just saying. I am not the only one picking up on this.
You would be right there, but these are just some of the games I've seen people play (typically) and thus i decided to test these out. None of them are too old, and they are all quite different to one another in their respect. The only reason I didn't include Crysis/Warhead is because it showed almost no improvement at all. If people suggest games to include, I can always test those in the future, or add their results later one. I planned on doing Riddick, Dead Rising 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction - but those are less common, and I just didn't get around to doing DR2. I'll add results for that later sometime if people require it.
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I would have liked to see a Q9550/Q9650 4GHz + DDR2 system compared to these benchmarks too.
    
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I would have liked to see a Q9550/Q9650 4GHz + DDR2 system compared to these benchmarks too.
Hey, I'm not a millionaire.
    
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No offense intended but you don't seem to understand the reason of this thread so i'll explain. Its not about "i3 beats i7" - But rather i did this because there would obviously be many who wouldn't be able to afford an X58 or similar setup and the i3+H55 combo is a lot cheaper overall and there are not many (if any?) reviews or comparissons between an i7 and i3 both overclocked to near, or the, same levels. None that i have seen at least. I hope that helps you understand that this is just to show how these 2 different platforms perform in some of the games today on a single graphics card. Obviously had i turned down the settings to medium or low, the i7 would get much higher framerates, but then you would ask yourself, that who would a powerful graphics card would run these games on medium or low? Thus it is much more realistic to have results for games at their highest (or most playable) settings to show what sort of performance people could expect to get.

I think you've done a really great job on this thread. It's plenty obvious that the thread isn't about "i3 > i7", but you know how it is... haters gonna hate.

Hopefully you don't mind, but I added this link to the i3 owners thread for the information of people researching. It will lay to rest a lot of the "zomg i3 suxors for gaminggg!!!11!1!!"


BTW, the haters can check out my 470 SLI sig rig if they think i3's suck with dual GPU's. I did a comparison with an 1366 owner that had SLI 470's and he scored a whopping 500 points higher than me in Vantage, and that was on default settings. At actual gaming resolutions, the difference would be even lower.
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Hey, I'm not a millionaire.
I use a Q9650@4.05GHz in my primary system. If I had the same graphics card you have I could have ran benchmarks on the games you tested, however I have a GTX 570...
    
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I think you've done a really great job on this thread. It's plenty obvious that the thread isn't about "i3 > i7", but you know how it is... haters gonna hate.

Hopefully you don't mind, but I added this link to the i3 owners thread for the information of people researching. It will lay to rest a lot of the "zomg i3 suxors for gaminggg!!!11!1!!"


BTW, the haters can check out my 470 SLI sig rig if they think i3's suck with dual GPU's. I did a comparison with an 1366 owner that had SLI 470's and he scored a whopping 500 points higher than me in Vantage, and that was on default settings. At actual gaming resolutions, the difference would be even lower.
Thanks, glad it helped. I'm cool with you linking it to the i3 club, what you said is pretty much right as loads think the i3 isn't capable for gaming. Also, if I can get my other GTX 470 back soon, how about we bench off some games and see the difference?

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I use a Q9650@4.05GHz in my primary system. If I had the same graphics card you have I could have ran benchmarks on the games you tested, however I have a GTX 570...
Oh dang. You know I had one, but got rid of it just the other day.
If I can get it back sometime i'll hit you up with a PM.
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That would be great, but until Notch releases a Minecraft benchmark, I don't have any games to bench.

If you don't mind synthetic benchmarks (I know those make for lots of crying), I'll do those all day long.
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Oh dang. You know I had one, but got rid of it just the other day.
If I can get it back sometime i'll hit you up with a PM.
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