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how can a gfx card be not compatible if ur mobo has pcie slot????
have u tried using it????

ontopic: out of ur 2 choices pick up gts 450...

I don't know I tried installing after upgrading my PSU and it would not display, called in XFX who manufactured the card and they told me that my 5750 would not run with my 939 mobo.

This is the response i got from XFX:

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[BRIAN 2/18/2011 12:16:38 AM] Hi, we have seen that the older pci-e 1.0 chipsets do not recognize the newer pci-e 2.1 cards. Unfortunately, we haven`t seen a socket 939 motherboard recognize any of these cards. It is an issue with the motherboard not recognizing it. Thanks, Brian.
This is why I'm concerned that the GTS 450 will not run as well.

Yes I know my Single core is outdated but at the moment its all I have. I would purchase a Mobo / CPU if I had the money but I don't, my kids come first.
Edited by Vudu - 2/18/11 at 4:50am
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I don't know I tried installing after upgrading my PSU and it would not display, called in XFX who manufactured the card and they told me that my 5750 would not run with my 939 mobo.

This is why I'm concerned that the GTS 450 will not run as well.

Yes I know my Single core is outdated but at the moment its all I have. I would purchase a Mobo / CPU if I had the money but I don't, my kids come first.
ok in that case u might very well get a 9800gt or even better 9600gt(in terms of price/perf.)...
9600gt is only 8%slower than 9800gt at most..
and i know it has 64 shaders opposed to 9800gt's 112...but its the same case as between gtx 460 and gtx 465...
9600gt is based on g94 which makes better use of resouces compared to 9800gt...
just sayin the rest is ur wish....

EDIT: oh almost forgot the comparison i gave between 9600gt and 9800gt is only valid upto a res of 1280x1024/1440x900....
beyond that the 9800gt starts taking lead due to more shaders......
Edited by ghost_z - 2/18/11 at 4:56am
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ok in that case u might very well get a 9800gt or even better 9600gt(in terms of price/perf.)...
9600gt is only 8%slower than 9800gt at most..
and i know it has 64 shaders opposed to 9800gt's 112...but its the same case as between gtx 460 and gtx 465...
9600gt is based on g94 which makes better use of resouces compared to 9800gt...
just sayin the rest is ur wish....

EDIT: oh almost forgot the comparison i gave between 9600gt and 9800gt is only valid upto a res of 1280x1024/1440x900....
beyond that the 9800gt starts taking lead due to more shaders......
Good call on the edit, thanks for the info as well.

Do you understand the compatibility issue with the what was said by the XFX tech? Older PCI-e 1.0 not recognizing the 2.1?
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Good call on the edit, thanks for the info as well.

Do you understand the compatibility issue with the what was said by the XFX tech? Older PCI-e 1.0 not recognizing the 2.1?
As far as I know all PCIEX 2.0 cards are fuly backwards compatible with the older PCIEX 1 slots
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You could trade the gift card to someone for $200 cash and get a nice processor/mobo upgrade first. That's what I would do anyway.
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Socket 939 is old though, and I know that some issues arise with PCI-e 1.0 and 1.0a or something... I think it's 1.0 that has problems with some 2.0 cards, and 1.0a pretty much accepts anything. Could be mistaken, don't quote me on that.

In that case I'd steer clear of any Fermi solution. You might even consider getting an 8800GT/GTX just to make sure it's compatible. If you go for a GTX you should consider a dual core upgrade. Ebay has a bunch of listings for s939 dual cores going for <$40.
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Socket 939 is old though, and I know that some issues arise with PCI-e 1.0 and 1.0a or something... I think it's 1.0 that has problems with some 2.0 cards, and 1.0a pretty much accepts anything. Could be mistaken, don't quote me on that.

In that case I'd steer clear of any Fermi solution. You might even consider getting an 8800GT/GTX just to make sure it's compatible. If you go for a GTX you should consider a dual core upgrade. Ebay has a bunch of listings for s939 dual cores going for <$40.
Awesome advice :

Dual core + 8800GTX/8800GTS 640 would be an ideal upgrade.
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Good call on the edit, thanks for the info as well.

Do you understand the compatibility issue with the what was said by the XFX tech? Older PCI-e 1.0 not recognizing the 2.1?
i have used a 9800gt as well as 9600gt with p4 and both were compatible and 939 socket is a newer one than p4's lga775 socket(longest surviving intel socket)...and afaik pcie2.1 is fully backward compatible with pcie 1.1.....
i think it might have been something else with ur pc
have u tried another card in ur pc????

EDIT:flying toilet do u know which pcie 1 version was used on intel 915 chipset...was it pcie 1a or 1????
Edited by ghost_z - 2/18/11 at 5:31am
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Socket 939 is old though, and I know that some issues arise with PCI-e 1.0 and 1.0a or something... I think it's 1.0 that has problems with some 2.0 cards, and 1.0a pretty much accepts anything. Could be mistaken, don't quote me on that.

In that case I'd steer clear of any Fermi solution. You might even consider getting an 8800GT/GTX just to make sure it's compatible. If you go for a GTX you should consider a dual core upgrade. Ebay has a bunch of listings for s939 dual cores going for <$40.

HAHAHAHA I feel like a tard now, it had never occurred to me to actually upgrade what I have for cheap, would the dual core something like this be worth my time?

If so I agree with all of this. will I see better performance speeds from my PC as far as having multiple programs opened etc. (World of warcraft + Paint.net)?

Im not a total newbie to PC's but my knowledge seems to be limited compared to most of you =P.

Thank you everyone for your responses as well, I have learned a great deal.

-Vudu
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i have used a 9800gt as well as 9600gt with p4 and both were compatible and 939 socket is a newer one than p4's lga775 socket(longest surviving intel socket)...and afaik pcie2.1 is fully backward compatible with pcie 1.1.....
i think it might have been something else with ur pc
have u tried another card in ur pc????
My 9400gt works fine (using as we speak).
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