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Quick, Simple question

Got my Sound System set-up afew days ago, works great and nice and yada yada yada.
The only problem is, I dont exactly know what kind of setup I've got here! XD

*PIC ATTACHED*

Is it 4.1? Is it 6.1? What is it?
As you can see, It's got 2 big front speakers, on top of these there are 2 small speakers, and on each side are another 2 medium speakers. Oh, and a subwoofer under the desk XD.
Well... I think the question is actually, do the 2 small speakers ontop of the Big Front speakers actually count as "Front Left of Center, Front Right of Center" and then it's prolly a 6.1 System, or are they just Front speakers, and it's actually a 4.1 System?

Sorry if I caused any confusion XD I just dont know how I'm supposed to call this.

Thank you

P.S. I used too much "Actually" x.x
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Originally Posted by HunT3R.! View Post
Quick, Simple question

Got my Sound System set-up afew days ago, works great and nice and yada yada yada.
The only problem is, I dont exactly know what kind of setup I've got here! XD

*PIC ATTACHED*

Is it 4.1? Is it 6.1? What is it?
As you can see, It's got 2 big front speakers, on top of these there are 2 small speakers, and on each side are another 2 medium speakers. Oh, and a subwoofer under the desk XD.
Well... I think the question is actually, do the 2 small speakers ontop of the Big Front speakers actually count as "Front Left of Center, Front Right of Center" and then it's prolly a 6.1 System, or are they just Front speakers, and it's actually a 4.1 System?

Sorry if I caused any confusion XD I just dont know how I'm supposed to call this.

Thank you

P.S. I used too much "Actually" x.x
Actually, I didn't notice that you used the word "actually" a lot. I actually wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out. hehehehe

Anyway, I like to think in black & white terms actually, so my vote goes for 6.1 just because you have 6 speakers and 1 subwoofer. I have no other reason than that.
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Actually you have a 4.1 system, even though you have hooked up additional speakers.

Your Amp in the mini system is capable of providing Front Right, Front Left, Rear Right, Rear Left speaker signals. That's 4 channels or Quadraphonic.

Then assuming you have hooked up the sub to some type of pre-out (with a X-over in the amp), or to the Front|Left/Right (X-over in the sub), that gives you the .1 for a 4.1 system.

The large Front|L/R speakers and the small ones sitting on top, are producing the same F|L/R audio signal, so you unfortunately don't get to add an additional 2 channels.
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Actually you have a 4.1 system, even though you have hooked up additional speakers.

Your Amp in the mini system is capable of providing Front Right, Front Left, Rear Right, Rear Left speaker signals. That's 4 channels or Quadraphonic.

Then assuming you have hooked up the sub to some type of pre-out (with a X-over in the amp), or to the Front|Left/Right (X-over in the sub), that gives you the .1 for a 4.1 system.

The large Front|L/R speakers and the small ones sitting on top, are producing the same F|L/R audio signal, so you unfortunately don't get to add an additional 2 channels.

Let me explain how it's hooked up.

The Big aiwa front speakers and the small speakers above are connected to the 4-Channel Amp. So far so good, no more room on the amp. These are plugged into the Front-Channel jack [Green]

The Medium speakers on the sides of the setup are actually connected to the Subwoofer under the desk, As in 2.1 Setup, and it all connects to the Rear Jack [Grey].

So, Is it a Quadraphonic setup even though it's plugged the way I just explained?

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Edited by HunT3R.! - 2/18/11 at 6:09am
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Let me explain how it's hooked up.

The Big aiwa front speakers and the small speakers above are connected to the 4-Channel Amp. So far so good, no more room on the amp. These are plugged into the Front-Channel jack [Green]

The Medium speakers on the sides of the setup are actually connected to the Subwoofer under the desk, As in 2.1 Setup, and it all connects to the Rear Jack [Grey].

So, Is it a Quadraphonic setup even though it's plugged the way I just explained?
I would think then that those 2 small upper speakers are killing your 4.1 surround with regular stereo output. Similar to having surround sound speakers then putting headphones on all at the same time.
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I would think then that those 2 small upper speakers are killing your 4.1 surround with regular stereo output. Similar to having surround sound speakers then putting headphones on all at the same time.
Why would you think that? It IS plugged as surround speakers

P.S. And AFAICS the Sound card treats the small speakers as front speakers, along with the big ones, resulting in a Quadraphonic surround (Don't forget the Medium speakers, these ARE NOT front). Well, atleast that's how it's configured I'm just confused. It's kinda like 4.1+2 XD
Edited by HunT3R.! - 2/18/11 at 6:17am
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Why would you think that? It IS plugged as surround speakers

P.S. And AFAICS the Sound card treats the small speakers as front speakers, along with the big ones, resulting in a Quadraphonic surround (Don't forget the Medium speakers, these ARE NOT front). Well, atleast that's how it's configured I'm just confused. It's kinda like 4.1+2 XD
You still only have 4 channels of sound coming from the computer. Green plug providing Front-Left/Right, and the grey plug providing the Rear-L/R surround.

That's still only 4 channels of sound, regardless of how many speakers are attached.

You are correct, that given a stereo source in the computer, the grey "rear" output will produce the same 2 channels of sound that the green front channel plug produces. It would only be when playing a multi-channel sound in the computer, (or utilizing EAX as an example), where the sound from the F-L/R will be different from the R-L/R channels. This is also where you may have a problem with feeding the sub from the rear channel jack, as most of the bass will be produced from the front channels, and will not be reproduced by the sub.
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You still only have 4 channels of sound coming from the computer. Green plug providing Front-Left/Right, and the grey plug providing the Rear-L/R surround.

That's still only 4 channels of sound, regardless of how many speakers are attached.

You are correct, that given a stereo source in the computer, the grey "rear" output will produce the same 2 channels of sound that the green front channel plug produces. It would only be when playing a multi-channel sound in the computer, (or utilizing EAX as an example), where the sound from the F-L/R will be different from the R-L/R channels. This is also where you may have a problem with feeding the sub from the rear channel jack, as most of the bass will be produced from the front channels, and will not be reproduced by the sub.
So, What you're saying is I have a Quadraphonic Surround system with 6 Speakers atm?
Also, when playing BFBC2 for example, the sound of the front speakers is noticeably different than the sound of the rear speakers. (All 4 Front speakers are the same though, No difference between big&small, the only difference is between the 4 front speakers and the 2 rear speakers)
Edited by HunT3R.! - 2/18/11 at 7:39am
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So, What you're saying is I have a Quadraphonic Surround system with 6 Speakers atm?
Also, when playing BFBC2 for example, the sound of the front speakers is noticeably different than the sound of the rear speakers. (All 4 Front speakers are the same though, No difference between big&small, the only difference is between the 4 front speakers and the 2 rear speakers)
Based on your connections, that means that the output from the AIWA on the "surround" signal is just a reproduction of the front channels. There is no processing going on that provides for a different type of "Matrix" surround (such as DD Prologic II). So you basically have 4 channel stereo from the AIWA. 4 speakers reproducing 2 channels; the Front-Left/Right channels.

The rear speakers, connected through the sub, should have a different sound when gaming. They are reproducing the rear channels. Most Game titles will produce multi channel sound.

What I was getting at in the last sentence of my last post, is that if you were to play music from the computer, that you would only have two channels of sound (a right and a left channel) being reproduced by the six speakers. In gaming, you get 4 channels of sound Front and Rear- Left and Right. Still only 4 channels of sound being produced by 6 speakers... so 4.1 sound. The sub counts as the .1.

The numbers in the description (2.0, 2.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1) represent the number of distinct channels that potentially can be reproduced from a system, not the total number of speakers.

Think about it this way. I'm setting up sound in my home (a whole house system as an example). I have a stereo source (Right/Left Channels). I feed this source to an amplifier. from this amplifier, I pull a left and right channel speaker wire to 10 different rooms in the house. Each room has 2 speakers, a left and right channel. That means i have used 20 speakers, yet each room only produces stereo (2 channels). Although I have hooked up 20 speakers, I don't have 20 channel sound, I still only have 2 channel stereo sound.

Make sense?
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Based on your connections, that means that the output from the AIWA on the "surround" signal is just a reproduction of the front channels. There is no processing going on that provides for a different type of "Matrix" surround (such as DD Prologic II). So you basically have 4 channel stereo from the AIWA. 4 speakers reproducing 2 channels; the Front-Left/Right channels.

The rear speakers, connected through the sub, should have a different sound when gaming. They are reproducing the rear channels. Most Game titles will produce multi channel sound.

What I was getting at in the last sentence of my last post, is that if you were to play music from the computer, that you would only have two channels of sound (a right and a left channel) being reproduced by the six speakers. In gaming, you get 4 channels of sound Front and Rear- Left and Right. Still only 4 channels of sound being produced by 6 speakers... so 4.1 sound. The sub counts as the .1.

The numbers in the description (2.0, 2.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1) represent the number of distinct channels that potentially can be reproduced from a system, not the total number of speakers.

Think about it this way. I'm setting up sound in my home (a whole house system as an example). I have a stereo source (Right/Left Channels). I feed this source to an amplifier. from this amplifier, I pull a left and right channel speaker wire to 10 different rooms in the house. Each room has 2 speakers, a left and right channel. That means i have used 20 speakers, yet each room only produces stereo (2 channels). Although I have hooked up 20 speakers, I don't have 20 channel sound, I still only have 2 channel stereo sound.

Make sense?
Yea definitely. It makes more sense it's a 4.1 System rather than 6.1 System, Since the small speakers, as u said, Count as front aswell. And yea I know the sub is the .1 lol.

So it's like, 4 Front speakers = 2 Channels , 2 Rear speakers = 2 Channels, Sub =.1 ..... 4.1?XD
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