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Hey everyone, I like to overclock and run fah, too. I like linux, so I got this new xeon that I want to run linux in... I dual booted with Windows then linux doesn't get networking. I'm pretty versed with linux and this was a low blow... I'm sharing here in hopes others searching on this problem will get help faster than I did. wink.gif

My hardware is Asus Maximus III gene and it has a Realtek r8168 ethernet chip. By defaul, linux installs the driver for r8169. After banging my head against it all day, I tried CentOS and then Ubuntu with the same results. With ubuntu's fantastically huge user-base, someone else had already figured it out. This is a pretty severe "linux" problem.

As I said in the other forum:
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I say to everyone that the behaviors reported in this thread makes absolute sense from an embedded software / hardware standpoint. I did that professionally and have had the same situations happen to us. The "normal" way people code is to try as little as possible when programming a chip until it does what you want. And you ignore ALL other registers and settings. You know, all that stuff that shows up in lspci -vv and -vvv. More OCD/anal types will read the data sheet for the chip and decide which configuration for EACH and every setting is the best and program it that way. It's my professional opinion that the r8168 and r8169 are so similar as to be considered equivalent. Until someone who likes to be overly thorough (like me) comes in and sets EVERY register for a r8169 onto a r8168 and then it gets kinda mad.

Hopefully, this information helps others with the same problem. I am an absolute fail at bug-reporting, so I would appreciate if someone would post it somewhere and reply with where it got posted (so I try to figure that out better).

Thanks,
Chris
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my board uses the r8168 NIC, and i use the r8169 driver, i'm not understanding the problem?

booting from windows back into linux makes the nic not work any longer?
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Yes. It's pretty strange & the last thing I would have thought. If it weren't for how prevalent it seems with Ubuntu, I might not even believe it. That's why I changed Ethernet cables and the port on the hub.
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wierd, i've never had this problem?

is it something you do in windows that screws with it?
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Haha yeah... Install vista! All i did with windows was boot & reboot to test and observe my overclock.
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This is probably a BIOS bug, though it's entirely possible that the kernel driver would be able to work around it, if you can provide a bug report to the driver maintainer.

I should note that I've never seen this bug, despite also having an "8168" and dual booting Windows and Linux (though quite rarely).

First thing I'd suggest, of course, would be to update the BIOS.
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must be an asus problem tbh, cause i have the same exact chipset for my nic that everyone in that post that had a problem has:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)

so i'm honestly at a lost as what causes the problem. might be a "quality" problem.
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I did update the bios... seemed to make it worse, actually. /etc/init.d/networking restart didn't work as a hack once I updated bios. Which is why I made a bit of an effort to put some posts out on a few forums.

IMHo, it is the 3~5 year old hardware that gets the most punishment in linux-land. The ancient crap always gets taken care of because there's a LOT of it. But as the "new" bugs are hacked and taken care of, when they are stale and the next wave of new hardware and new bugs comes out, people clean up the old code and forgot what exactly caused ICH9 to not boot when that was the latest notebook hardware in 2007...

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post #9 of 9
it just miffs me how it works on some running this nic and cause problems for others having the same.

from what i could gather from the forum post, it has to due with the injection of a bad firmware from the driver into the nic, and it spazzing out. the 8168 and 8169 are almost virtually identical, i can see why the dev's of the kernel decided to only include 8169.
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