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It seems that some hackers may not only have managed to get around Sony’s new PlayStation 3 banning system, they could even manage to turn it around and get innocent gamers banned for doing nothing wrong.
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In the words of a few confused individuals on here "All this because Sony took away OtherOS"
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Hilarious.
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The theory even goes on to suggest that a simple Windows application could be created that would go through all PlayStation console IDs and get the world's consoles banned in around 24 hours.
This would be epic.

Maybe Sony should just give us Other OS back.
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This is a theory and a stupid one at that.

http://www.overclock.net/12436489-post50.html

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Hackers responded: they can unban any console that sony bans. There is no way for sony to do anything with the current system it seems. The hackers can also ban legit people as well...
http://www.psnathome.com/general/ps3...-consoles.html
I honestly don't believe that for a second. Hardware IDs are not simply software changes. Unless Sony didn't encrypt their hardware IDs or encrypted them with the same code as the signature keys (highly unlikely) - there is no way to simply do that with "information intercepts".

And, also if true, hardware IDs aren't just like 000001 and 00002 and 00003. Their random combination of letters and numbers. The chance of guessing a correct ID that someone has on their system, the hacker using it, and then getting the legit person banned is SUPER unlikely. That is the same idea as me going on my Xbox 360's JTAG and trying to guess the keychain of a legit Xbox 360 that is out there somewhere. It's almost impossible. I would have a better chance at guessing someone's credit card PIN starting with 1111 and going up from there with 1112. Unless there is a way hackers can see the hardware IDs (which is already, as I said unlikely enough to decrypt as it is) of other PSN users - then there is no way they're going to guess their ID on their own and be able to get a legit user banned.

I want to see that software from a better source, and in use before I even consider the possibility of that existing.
I think there was a reason PSX-Scene deleted their news post, because they probably got a slew of people going "boooooo - nonono"


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Haha, I can see it now, Sony bricks consoles using PS3 id numbers that have not been manufactured yet.
That's another thing too. Chances are, and it would be shocking if not true, unless the "fake" hardware ID matches the real ID of the hardware - then the console is just going to stop working. The physical ID is highly unlikely to be changed to a working ID unless the person got the physical ID from another PS3 and swapped them out. Again, it's not something you can simply make up. Unless there is no hardware check, which would be really stupid and infallible for any hardware in this day and age, then they're just going to brick themselves over.

If I'm wrong, and that software is real and works as that "article" claims - I'll eat a hat.
Sony may be stupid with the whole signature key thing, but other than that - the PS3 has been more or less hack proof since day one. If Sony honestly didn't protect their hardware ID and had physical and/or software ID checks in place - the PS3 would've been cracked years ago and none of this would even be a discussion.

360 users with JTAGs have been able to intercept information going from the 360 to MS or the gameservers since it was first found. Never have they been able to circumvent a console ID ban, and never will either. If the PS3 is somehow different in this manner, I'll poop myself and bash on Sony just as bad as blind haters.

That's assuming that bans are not just user bans and hardware ID as well. If the ban is only user accounts, then there is no discussion to be had - all it takes is a new user.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 2/18/11 at 1:54pm
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Good point, Omega. Closed.
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