Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Power Supplies › Why single rail is NOT better than multi rail
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Why single rail is NOT better than multi rail - Page 13  

post #121 of 172
somebody know the CM UCP 1100W is mutli rail :"D?
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
post #122 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by runeazn View Post
somebody know the CM UCP 1100W is mutli rail :"D?
Yes, it has 6 rails to my memory.
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
post #123 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Most units with OCP now have the same value on each rail and average between 18-20A for the OCP value which is more than enough for any SLI setup.
LOL, 18-20A is not "more than enough" for "any" SLI setup. You're funny, man.
post #124 of 172
Thread Starter 
I'm going to add an addendum to my original post.

Just because your PSU is single rail, doesn't mean that it's a bad power supply or that it's going to spontaneously combust. It just means that it's lacking a protection set (or that set is poorly implemented). Multi-rail OCP will save your butt in a couple of 1/10,000 occurrences. The vast majority of people will never be in a situation where they'll really need OCP. But those who do get in that situation, really need it.

The point of this is not to make you immediately abandon your single rail PSUs. You're in all likelihood fine. The point is to get the lack of a feature to stop being considered a benefit.
post #125 of 172
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hannedog View Post
LOL, 18-20A is not "more than enough" for "any" SLI setup. You're funny, man.
Yeah, I'd like to see at least 25A on a high end PSU. That's enough to power a GTX480 or HD5970, assuming it's just the two PCIe connectors on that rail (which it should be).
post #126 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Yes, it has 6 rails to my memory.
yeah but is does it have good protection?
cuz its name is ultimate circuit protection rofl..
6 12V + rails
and 1 12V - rail
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
post #127 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by hannedog View Post
LOL, 18-20A is not "more than enough" for "any" SLI setup. You're funny, man.
Tell that to the Silverstone Strider 1500w which powers GTX 480 Quad-SLI setups and it's 12v rails have OCP limits of 20A.

Quote:
Originally Posted by runeazn View Post
yeah but is does it have good protection?
cuz its name is ultimate circuit protection rofl..
6 12V + rails
and 1 12V - rail
Yes, it has a multitude of protections.
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
post #128 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
The point is to get the lack of a feature to stop being considered a benefit.
I know you feel that this is the case (that the lack of the feature has been considered a benefit), but, I don't think any common perception has ever been that single rail is safer or a benefit from the standpoint of safety. Sure, there's FUD out there, just like there is on any topic. But, it's not the common perception.

If people consider single rail to be a benefit over multi-rail, they are looking at it from an overall perspective, not from a "safety" one.
post #129 of 172
yerah i jsut found how many and i did this
OVP / OCP / OPP / SCP / UVP / OTP
^^^^ rofl
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5218
somebody mind to tell me what for protections those are?
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
Ryu's Den :3
(19 items)
 
Ryu's Den
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 965 Extreme Edition Asus P6T6 WS Workstation XFX 6850 Asus 6850 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Muskin Copperhead WD RE-4GP  WD Raptor Adata S596  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Custom water cooling Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky 1087 & VorteX Poker & G19 Coolermaster UCP 1100W HAF 932 G9 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Hien Hard Custom fusion, Creative Ducky wristrest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 965 Of DOOM @ 3.33Ghz 1.17V P6T6 WS Revolution EVGA GTX 275 1792MB Voltmodded Mushkin Copperhead 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
300gb velociraptor and 2x2TB WD RE4-GP Vista U 64X,Win 7 64X,MAC OS X Snow Leopard 64X samsung synchmaster 2949hs Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
1100watt coolermaster UCP Coolermaster HAF932 G9/G5 Hien Hard,Razor exactmat 
  hide details  
post #130 of 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
I'm going to add an addendum to my original post.

Just because your PSU is single rail, doesn't mean that it's a bad power supply or that it's going to spontaneously combust. It just means that it's lacking a protection set (or that set is poorly implemented). Multi-rail OCP will save your butt in a couple of 1/10,000 occurrences. The vast majority of people will never be in a situation where they'll really need OCP. But those who do get in that situation, really need it.

The point of this is not to make you immediately abandon your single rail PSUs. You're in all likelihood fine. The point is to get the lack of a feature to stop being considered a benefit.
Thanks for the article Phaedrus. It was very fascinating, informative and well laid out. Reps to you for the article and the addendum to it.
Juggernaut
(10 items)
 
  
MotherboardGraphicsRAMCooling
asus rog maximus hero ix EVGA 1080 SC 8GB Corsair Vengeance LED - Reds Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 64 Dell 2716DB Logitech G410 Corsair 750 TX 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF XB EVO Logitech G502 
  hide details  
Juggernaut
(10 items)
 
  
MotherboardGraphicsRAMCooling
asus rog maximus hero ix EVGA 1080 SC 8GB Corsair Vengeance LED - Reds Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 64 Dell 2716DB Logitech G410 Corsair 750 TX 
CaseMouse
Coolermaster HAF XB EVO Logitech G502 
  hide details  
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Power Supplies
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Power Supplies › Why single rail is NOT better than multi rail