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Poll Results: What should I upgrade?

 
  • 0% (0)
    CPU: Upgrade to Phenom X6
  • 0% (0)
    RAM: Upgrade to another 2x 2GB (to 8GB total)
  • 84% (11)
    VGA: Upgrade to 5850
  • 15% (2)
    HDD: Upgrade to a SSD
13 Total Votes  
post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
See my sig rig, I'm currently playing Rift Beta and am disappointed by experiencing lag when running at over medium settings (not major, just low fps).

That said, I've approximately $200 I've budgeted to upgrade, so in your opinion what's holding me back the most?

Thoughts:
Adding, CPU Phenom X6, videocard may bottleneck
Adding, 2x4GB RAM, 12GB ram may bottleneck
Adding, another 4870? Outdated technology
Adding, 5850, cpu may bottleneck
Adding, SSD, I doubt this will improve anything but load time, plus prices are still high because they're relatively new
Edited by m|dg3t - 2/19/11 at 10:45am
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post #2 of 10
Have you tried actually checking things such as RAM usage during your game?
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I actually didn't check - but I figured I could actually get another 2x2GB+4870 (Crossfire) for less than the price of a 5850 or Phenom X6 or Decent SSD.
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post #4 of 10
Most likely, a 2x2GB kit will only run you around $40-50 nowadays and that's new. 4870 you'll have to get used. Most likely you could get both for around $150 which is less than a Phenom II x6, not necessarily less than a decent SSD.

I now realize your hard drive is a 5400RPM.... perhaps a new HDD may help if not an SSD, i.e. a 7200RPM Samsung F3 500GB, $40
post #5 of 10
Before I make my reccomendation, are you able to provide the model # of your HD?

You at least know what jumps out at me the most. Also, Rift Beta? It is Beta, so it could be the game you know!
 
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post #6 of 10
use msi afterburner and check gpu utilization during the beta. If it is close to constant 99 the gpu is the bottleneck. You could either cf 4870 or get a new card. If not check core usage with task manager. You won't see any architectural improvement moving to an x6, and the two cores won't help much. You should get a good aftermarket cpu cooler and overclock that chip to ~3.5+.

New video card + aftermarket cpu cooler + overclock.
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post #7 of 10
The msi gtx 460 soc is 150$ on newegg. U should give it a look if u want to upgrade your video card. Hope u don't mind having nVidia under the hood.
CPU shouldn't be a problem, I've got smth close to yours and got no issue.
Edited by andrei.c - 2/19/11 at 12:05pm
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post #8 of 10
I would have to make x2 recommendations. One being the HDD & the video card.

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

40.00

Open Box: ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390R

128.00


168.00
Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 2/19/11 at 12:20pm
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post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by m|dg3t;12446624 
See my sig rig, I'm currently playing Rift Beta and am disappointed by experiencing lag when running at over medium settings (not major, just low fps).

That said, I've approximately $200 I've budgeted to upgrade, so in your opinion what's holding me back the most?

Thoughts:
Adding, CPU Phenom X6, videocard may bottleneck
Adding, 2x4GB RAM, 12GB ram may bottleneck
Adding, another 4870? Outdated technology
Adding, 5850, cpu may bottleneck
Adding, SSD, I doubt this will improve anything but load time, plus prices are still high because they're relatively new

why dont you save up some cash, sell your current gpu (or keep it as backup gpu) and buy yourself a descent graphics card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150476
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550
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G SKILL RIPJAWS saegate 500GB 7200 RPM WD 500GB 7200 RPM Samsung SSD 
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Corsaid H80i g skill ram cooler Windows 10 Pro Kubuntu 
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wireless logitech custom dragon LG home theater system 
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post #10 of 10
WD1001FALS. Has been serving me for around a year and a half now, when I bought it in September 09 pretty much all 1TB hard drives cost around $100 tongue.gif now you can find them for $50-60. Heck I even got a similar variant to mine (same one really, just had SATAIII) for $40 once [though it was open box/refurbished]
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