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[Toms] Intel to Ship 10-core CPUs in First Half of 2011

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Thursday an Intel spokesperson said that its upcoming 10-core "Westmere-EX" Xeon processor (pdf) will launch during the first half of 2011. The chip follows Intel's 2010 release of the Nehalem-EX CPU, currently the fastest Intel server processor on the market sporting up to eight cores.
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...and people thought AMD was stupid for just throwing more cores on the Phenom
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...and people thought AMD was stupid for just throwing more cores on the Phenom
It's only stupid if you don't consider the actual performance of each core. No point running 12 cores if each one is slow.
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MOAR, cores!
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So do AMD and Intel have a "core-count" battle going on or something??
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It's only stupid if you don't consider the actual performance of each core. No point running 12 cores if each one is slow.
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1090T at 4.4 GHz compared to i7 920 4.4 GHz. AMD roughly 20 GFLOPS ahead. Slower core performance, 25% performance gain. This performance gain is clearly seen in FarCry 2.

There is point in running more cores that are slightly slower (although the individual cores do not necessarily need to be slower in general). The only problem is when they are not being used. AMD and Intel need to really have the market focus on multi-threaded apps. Give companies a few bonuses for supporting multi-threaded applications.
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1090T at 4.4 GHz compared to i7 920 4.4 GHz. AMD roughly 20 GFLOPS ahead. Slower core performance, 25% performance gain. This performance gain is clearly seen in FarCry 2.

There is point in running more cores that are slightly slower (although the individual cores do not necessarily need to be slower in general). The only problem is when they are not being used. AMD and Intel need to really have the market focus on multi-threaded apps. Give companies a few bonuses for supporting multi-threaded applications.
My point being that if the actual core itself is slow, then it will be hard to make a competitive product. Intel releases something with more cores, each of which are more powerful within themselves and AMD are back to square one.

I like the concept of multicore CPU's, I just believe the single core they are based on has to be scalable and competitive.
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...and people thought AMD was stupid for just throwing more cores on the Phenom
Well people were hoping for a new and improved architecture, but all they got were more cores. Not many people said it was stupid because from a business standpoint they had to do something and they had to do it fast, they were falling behind quite a bit after the core architecture came out. Intel, on the other hand is offering 10 cores of their core architecture, that is just plain fast. I think a 12 core would have been nice but you know this will wipe the floor with AMD's 12 cores. BTW: I am not in anyway a fan boy, I personally cannot wait to see what the Bulldozer architecture will be like but this chip looks pretty nice. I can't wait for more cores to come to desktop cpu's so prices can hopefully come down on the current cpu's out.
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1090T at 4.4 GHz compared to i7 920 4.4 GHz. AMD roughly 20 GFLOPS ahead. Slower core performance, 25% performance gain. This performance gain is clearly seen in FarCry 2.

There is point in running more cores that are slightly slower (although the individual cores do not necessarily need to be slower in general). The only problem is when they are not being used. AMD and Intel need to really have the market focus on multi-threaded apps. Give companies a few bonuses for supporting multi-threaded applications.
And in the majority of games that only utilize 2-3 cores the i7 has a very clear advantage.
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