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I do understand the way Hyper threading works, and yes Hyper threading doesn't always improve performance.
The whole point of it was to improve performance but it's practically a gimmick. It just makes things sound better. Unfortunately (not really to me), Intel didn't think it through. It does help with performance a little. That doesn't completely explain why they have faster processors though.
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I do understand the way Hyper threading works, and yes Hyper threading doesn't always improve performance.
You people are so smeared in marketing and hardware features that the very basic idea of something like a thread Pavlovs you into barking INTEL. INTEL. HYPERTHREADING. WOOF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_...ter_science%29

Not entirely accurate, as it is Wikipedia, but you get the gist.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the new cluster design add a more parallel structure to the traditional 1 core per thread? Even hyper-threading is still a linear structure.
I don't want to go out completely on a limb and say I'm right about this, but to my understanding, since there's no distinction between macro ops and cores, AMD will be able to improve per core (per module) performance as they're able to use more cores on a single module.
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The whole point of it was to improve performance but it's practically a gimmick. It just makes things sound better. Unfortunately (not really to me), Intel didn't think it through. It does help with performance a little. That doesn't completely explain why they have faster processors though.
Look, as much as I dislike Intel, Hyper threading isn't a gimmick, it just depends on the application.
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Look, as much as I dislike Intel, Hyper threading isn't a gimmick, it just depends on the application.
The performance increase is actually pretty small. I don't think .1 ghz is going to do much.
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The performance increase is actually pretty small. I don't think .1 ghz is going to do much.
The influence of HT depends on what you're doing.

In let us say Folding@Home, for my brothers 1055T (overclocked) to keep up with my i7-950 (at stock) in points per day, the AMDx6 has to OC'd +25% to get the same PPD that the i7-950 puts out at stock with HT-on.

If you're gaming. You likely won't notice any difference. It depends on what you;re doing.
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The performance increase is actually pretty small. I don't think .1 ghz is going to do much.
You cant measure the performance like that, it depends on the application.

Check here for instance: Ixbtlabs.com. See how the HT's providing up to 27% gains over having the HT off.
post #38 of 168
10 integer cores, 20 threads
I think it'd be fairly even with Bulldozer's 16 integer cores (8 modules).
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When I bought my sig rig. I said that my next upgrade would be when intel makes something with at least 8 physical cores. That time is near

I encode a lot of video, so this is relevant to my interests
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10 integer cores, 20 threads
I think it'd be fairly even with Bulldozer's 16 integer cores (8 modules).
Isn't it 10 cores, 10 threads?

Edit - nvmd.
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