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All I know is that I just built a 4 socket (Magny Cours 6128) x 8 Core machine with 128GB of ECC DDR3 and my sig rig SR-2 with 2 x X5680 and 24GB of DDR3

2 Intel X5680 (24 vCPU)> 4 Magny-Cours 6128 (32 vCPU)

In my benches Intel wins at everything from virtualization to database TPS to HPC. I really wanted the AMD machine to edge in there or win......... but i just cant compete. Granted the SR-2 is OC'd out the wazoo as is the memory but in benches I ran its not even close on any front.
Edited by ShtSh00ttr - 2/19/11 at 1:23pm
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The AMD build was probably less expensive though.
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Originally Posted by HybridCore;12448107 
The AMD build was probably less expensive though.


If not for the ECC 128GB of memory it would have been close. But the memory cost tipped the scales. All that aside ... part for part with specs matched up as close as possible the SR-2 still walks away from the AMD w/o breaking a sweat.
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This will be awesome when there is a dual socket board for it. 20 cores, 40 threads. What's not to like?
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workstations have different requirements than gaming setups and have been able to use more than 2 cores for a long time now. for example blenders render engine is able to handle up to 64 cores so we are far from the limit for workstation core counts...

why lots here are so narrow minded and think every cpu is only developed for gaming is just amazing...

cant wait to see the render benchmarks of that beast:O
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Originally Posted by Willhemmens;12447838 
Look, as much as I dislike Intel, Hyper threading isn't a gimmick, it just depends on the application.

Single threaded does not mean it produces a single thread. Most applications use many threads at any given time, just not in a parallel fashion. Heck, I'm running 1100 threads at this current moment.

Hyper-threading does decrease performance when the cores are taxed. The purpose of hyper-threading is to throw an additional thread for a single processor to calculate in its free time. If the application is demanding enough, hyper-threading will dramatically decrease performance as a single processor has to calculate 2 threads at the same time. Hence why physical cores are more efficient then logical ones in demanding applications.
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Originally Posted by kromar;12448231 
workstations have different requirements than gaming setups and have been able to use more than 2 cores for a long time now. for example blenders render engine is able to handle up to 64 cores so we are far from the limit for workstation core counts...

why lots here are so narrow minded and think every cpu is only developed for gaming is just amazing...

cant wait to see the render benchmarks of that beast:O

I'll save you the click...... as of right now ( 2/19/2011 ) a pair of X5680's (which can be overclocked to 4 GHZ easily on stock cooling) still spank anything AMD can offer with current mobos available. And I am talking about everything BUT gaming.
Edited by ShtSh00ttr - 2/19/11 at 1:51pm
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I'll save you the click...... as of right now ( 2/19/2011 ) a pair of X5680's (which can be overclocked to 4 GHZ easily on stock cooling) still spank anything AMD can offer with current mobos available. And I am talking about everything BUT gaming.

what are you talking about? is this some fanboy talk? i never said anything about amd is faster or anything like that... just that workstations profit more from core amount no mather what brand....
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Originally Posted by ShtSh00ttr;12448254 
I'll save you the click...... as of right now ( 2/19/2011 ) a pair of X5680's (which can be overclocked to 4 GHZ easily on stock cooling) still spank anything AMD can offer with current mobos available. And I am talking about everything BUT gaming.

Did you overclock those opterons to 4 GHz too? I'd be interested to see what the results would hold then.

Anyways, here is 48 AMD cores running cine.

cinebench-r11.5-32bit-wine-4p6174-for-brutis.png
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kromar;12448382 
what are you talking about? is this some fanboy talk? i never said anything about amd is faster or anything like that... just that workstations profit more from core amount no mather what brand....

Not at all. I thought you were making the point that simply adding cores irrespective of clock frequency and architecture was the key to success.

Also .... it takes Four (4) Magny-Cours 6174 at $1,299 each (aka $5,196) to outpace a pair of X5680's (aka $3398) in any benches. Look at any of the reviews (I took my own benches and confirmed them) to see that the AMD choice is more expensive and less efficient in computation and cost.

4 x AMD 6174 = 480W
4 x AMD 6174 = $5196

2 x X5680 = 260W
2 x X5680 = $3398

I would be the first guy to hop on the AMD Bandwagon if it could keep up or outpace the Intel offerings. But when you look at the nitty gritty details; AMD is less efficient thermally and architecturally AND costs more in TCO.
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