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As some of you already know, I missed the boat on SB. Intel pulled the mobos 3 days before payday. I decided to just get something cheap and fast enough to hold me over until SB, IB, or BD. I went with a 965 BE (didn't need 2 extra cores for gaming) and an Asus mobo. Both are generally well thought of in the OC world.

After building the rig, installing Windows, etc, I loaded up CPUz. The first thing I noticed is that my VID is 1.375, and I have a C3. So...C3 good, VID bad, I figured I'd give OCing it a shot anyway, since 4.0Ghz+ is fairly common with C3's.

I took it slow, and didn't do it the noob way (20x multi and try to get it stable). I worked my way up slowly, and only added voltage as needed. After trying for a few days, I couldn't get anything better than 3.8Ghz @1.475v. Any higher, even when I push the voltage past 1.5v, is unstable. Any lower on the voltage is also unstable.

So I ran it at 3.8Ghz. I did about 10-12 hours on OCCT, and I folded on it for a couple of days, ran a few benches, played some games, and it seemed to be working. However, I've had the thing bluescreen on me 3 different nights. It's fine during the day...testing, folding, benching, gaming. For some reason, just leaving it alone to fold overnight is enough to cause a crash. I could probably up the voltage a bit more and get it stable, but 1.5v+ for a 400Mhz OC just seems kind of silly.

So yeah, I'm a bit disappointed. I know everyone gets a lemon from time to time, and I happened to be the one to catch it this time. I've set it back to stock. I may play around with it again, but I'll more than likely just upgrade my daughter's rig or build an HTPC out of it when I can get something better. It works great at stock, but what's the point of buying a BE to run at stock?
 
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Quite possible u did get a lemon chip...yea 1.5v for just a 400mhz increase in speed is not worth it. I had a 945 and it worked well so i guess the stock 965 could be good at stock as well...and yea buying a BE chip and not being able to OC it sucks...oh well u have some options later on in the year...this year is really gonna be a shaking up and serious price drops.
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that sucks, what are your temps with that hyper 212+
    
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Could be a lemon core, drop your voltage slightly below known stable and try to get prime to shut a worker down without crashing.

You could probably get away with a higher clocked X3 in many games
    
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that sucks, what are your temps with that hyper 212+
I leave the CPU fans set to auto/optimal, so my readings may not be accurate compared to someone who runs them at a set speed. When I was running it at 3.8Ghz, it peaked out around 53c while folding or running OCCT. Now that I set it back to stock, CoreTemp isn't reading it. I'm thinking it may be something to do with C&Q or whatever it is that throttles these things. I figured if I'm not going to OC it, I might as well make it efficient.
 
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Yeah my 955 C3 isn't a super duper chip either. I guess you just have to be lucky
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LOL you guess complaining about not being able to hit 4GHz. For the same amount of voltage that took OP to get 4GHz that's how much it takes me to get 3.6. My Athlon has a very steep FSB/vcore curve. Haven't we already gone over how not every Phenom will be able to hit 4GHz?

I do understand though how it feels when you hear about how everyone else is getting 4GHz.
     
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LOL you guess complaining about not being able to hit 4GHz. For the same amount of voltage that took OP to get 4GHz that's how much it takes me to get 3.6. My Athlon has a very steep FSB/vcore curve. Haven't we already gone over how not every Phenom will be able to hit 4GHz?

I do understand though how it feels when you hear about how everyone else is getting 4GHz.
1. It never got to 4.0Ghz.
2. I never said 4.0Ghz was guaranteed; I said others have had good luck with this particular chip and other similar ones (C3 BE's).
3. I'd be ok with 3.8Ghz at a reasonable voltage. I'm unhappy because I paid extra for a BE, and for what I got I could have just gone with the standard 965 and kept the extra cash to put towards an SB, IB, or BD build when those chips are available.

It's not the end of the world, and I did get what I paid for (3.4Ghz stable). It happens to everyone from time to time. It's just disappointing is all.
 
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My 965 did 4.3+ F@H stable, sometimes you just get lucky.
    
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could i ask what settings you are using?
the p2 seem to have a strange phenomenon with there multis my multi would become unstable at about 19x so how i did it was get the multi as high as you can stable then you can go up on the fsb to get the rest 4ghz is normally 1.5v for most people although mine did not require more voltage to hit 4.2 but then again temp became my problem at that point.
    
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