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post #1 of 14
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I had this question because I just finished my watercooling computer project and my idle temps aren't that much lower than it was on air. I'm hovering between 29c and 32c. Before I was at 35c on air.

My setup of course isn't optimal. My loop goes Res/Pump-->Rad-->CPU-->Rad-->GPU1-->GPU2-->res/pump.

A problem I think I see is that I only have 3 fans on the first radiator (RX360) pushing in and no pull. On the second radiator I have no fans on there because it is hanging off the rear and I couldn't find a way to make the wire discrete.

Also, how much does the overall temp inside the case play a part? BTW I used the XSPC kit and two koolance GPU blocks. The GPUs idle at the same temp.

Any advice? Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 14
Are those your idle temps? If so, load the CPU and let the magic happen. A 6c drop at idle is huge and the drop will only increase at load, the temp change is not linear.
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post #3 of 14
Idle temps don't matter, only load ones do. My friend's i7 with a rasa kit idles at 26 @ 4.0 but loads at 70 while mine idles at 29-30 with the same ambient and loads at 52 with the same voltage, etc. I can inevitably get higher clocks bc of better load temps
 
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post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;12449916 
Idle temps don't matter, only load ones do. My friend's i7 with a rasa kit idles at 26 @ 4.0 but loads at 70 while mine idles at 29-30 with the same ambient and loads at 52 with the same voltage, etc. I can inevitably get higher clocks bc of better load temps

I must be doing something wrong because 52C with 1.4v+ is impossible even with water cooling. Unless 10C < ambient.
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post #5 of 14
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Ok, now I don't feel so bad. Because my load temps are at about 52c. Thanks for pointing out that the temp decreases weren't linear. Now, I just have to work on getting a stable OC. As of now my stable OC is 3.69 from 3.0.
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post #6 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er;12449948 
I must be doing something wrong because 52C with 1.4v+ is impossible even with water cooling. Unless 10C < ambient.

4.0 with 1.35 volts w/ 21x multiplier. I also have 6x 120 rad dedicated to the cpu.
 
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post #7 of 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;12450377 
4.0 with 1.35 volts w/ 21x multiplier. I also have 6x 120 rad dedicated to the cpu.

you have 6 single rads? My problem wasn't even at the temps though. I guess my particular processor isn't capable of getting a major OC.
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post #8 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by CP2;12452618 
you have 6 single rads? My problem wasn't even at the temps though. I guess my particular processor isn't capable of getting a major OC.

total radiator area of 6 x 120 rad, actually a 120, 240 and a 360 for the cpu.

Some cpus hit a wall that they just can't pass without jumping to phase change or ln2
 
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post #9 of 14
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Oh I see. Right now I am getting better temps than last night. I thinking maybe the thermal compound had to settle in or something. Now my idle was more like 26c and load at 46c. I'm going to try to expand on my OC a bit.
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post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by CP2;12458792 
Oh I see. Right now I am getting better temps than last night. I thinking maybe the thermal compound had to settle in or something. Now my idle was more like 26c and load at 46c. I'm going to try to expand on my OC a bit.

Unless you are using Arctic Silver it is unlikely that the TIM had something to do with it at this magnitude (6C temperature difference). IC7 is the one to go for nowadays.
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