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It's gotta be rough when your competition spends the same amount of money on a new Fab process vs what your company's total worth is.
Ya it's even rougher when your competition uses fake accounting, pretend customers and countereit money. It's a heck of an advantage. But even with all that intel is still failing. And 14nm ssd sales won't help even if they can build them in 3 or 4 years. 32nm plants cost 7 billion in asia. How they going to build a 14nm plant for 5 billion in arizona.

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And Intel still can't make a half decent dedicated gpu.
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I'm glad that Intel is joining AMD in having fabrication plants in the U.S.
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post #94 of 131
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I'm glad that Intel is joining AMD in having fabrication plants in the U.S.
I hope you were just misinformed, and not trying to troll..
Intel always had way more fabs in the U.S that outside of it.

the new Fab (fab 42) will be located at the same location where Fab 12,22 & 32 currently are.
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Ya it's even rougher when your competition uses fake accounting, pretend customers and countereit money. It's a heck of an advantage. But even with all that intel is still failing. And 14nm ssd sales won't help even if they can build them in 3 or 4 years. 32nm plants cost 7 billion in asia. How they going to build a 14nm plant for 5 billion in arizona.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hL6fkJ1_k
I don't know where you get this stuff, but i'll try and answer the actual question regarding the fab cost :
every Fab requires support buildings (offices, chemical delivery systems, Water facilities, drain treatment systems etc..), Fab42 will be built in an area where those support buildings already exist, perhaps only a small upgrades will be needed, so that might explain the price different, regarding the numbers you presented.
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I hope you were just misinformed, and not trying to troll..
Intel always had way more fabs in the U.S that outside of it.

the new Fab (fab 42) will be located at the same location where Fab 12,22 & 32 currently are.
Well, I've never had a chip that was labeled as made in the U.S. (Costa Rica I believe or something similar), so pardon me. Perhaps I'm not thinking of the right type of fabrication plant.

And don't overuse "trolling" here; there is no possible way that's what I was doing.
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post #97 of 131
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I'm glad that Intel is joining AMD in having fabrication plants in the U.S.
Uhhhh, AMD is a fabless company. You know Global Foundries? Yeah, that's where AMD's fabs went.

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Well, I've never had a chip that was labeled as made in the U.S. (Costa Rica I believe or something similar), so pardon me. Perhaps I'm not thinking of the right type of fabrication plant.
Costa Rica isn't actually a fab, rather it's a packaging facility. Dies are made at fabs elsewhere then sent to Costa Rica for packaging. Packaging is where they take the silicon die and bond it to the PCB with all the pins/pads and then put the heat spreader on it.
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I don't know where you get this stuff, but i'll try and answer the actual question regarding the fab cost :
every Fab requires support buildings (offices, chemical delivery systems, Water facilities, drain treatment systems etc..), Fab42 will be built in an area where those support buildings already exist, perhaps only a small upgrades will be needed, so that might explain the price different, regarding the numbers you presented.
I don't know if you've been keeping up with current events but they still have to build a big dorm style facility to house the migrant workers or have you not looked at arizona's housing prices and homeless population. Which I guess are soon to be converted to migrant workers. Gonna need catholic priests to tell them suicide is a sin day and night.
Oh and china's about to have a huge revolution. Which will pretty much destroy foxconn and intel and apple.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...-just-venting/
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They still have a lot of work to do. Check out the size of this crane they are using:
Worlds largest mobile crane
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Intel's new $5B semiconductor factory, called FAB 42 in Chandler has the distinction of being built using the worlds largest "mobile" crane. The yellow Sarens SGC 120, nicknamed "Big Benny," was shipped to Chandler from Belgium starting in June and assembly of this massive crane was completed this week. It cost over $1m and 100 truckloads in (3) months to move it to the site. It will soon be employed in lifting the larger components onto the factory building. The crane is mounted to the ground on a circular, 120 foot diameter set of tracks for the duration of the job. The main boom is 426 ft long with a jib that extends another 295 ft, for a maximum height of 689 ft. It can lift as much as 3500 tons. The blue part on the back is (8) stacks of cargo containers filled with sand. The crane is adjacent to a 4 story building (Fab32).

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Things keep getting smaller. Just like in the Winter! biggrin.gif
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Is this really necessary?
I mean,hardware is moving way.........too fast for software to catch up.
And? Give software devs something to aim for. SOMETHING THEY CAN NEVER HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Worlds largest mobile crane
Worlds largest mobile crane to build the worlds smallest (pc) processor? I see what they're doing there.
Edited by BlackVenom - 1/25/12 at 4:04pm
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