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Exactly. It would be fantastic for GT5 especially because GT5 doesn't have any of the stuff that FPS games traditionally have like odd-shaped or thin objects in backgrounds.
Using MLAA in GT5 would've allowed them to make nicer environments or increase texture resolutions on things. It would've opened up a nice chunk of GPU RAM.

Then you probably did not read the article. The MLAA is done by cell processors, not by the RSX GPU

And also MLAA saves graphics memory

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The MLAA code is entirely driven by five of the Cell chip's SPUs operating in parallel, typically taking around 4-5ms to process a 720p image (with 33.33ms in total available to generate an entire frame). As discussed in our previous Killzone 3 tech analysis, Guerrilla's own presentations suggest that the powerful satellite processors had around 40 per cent leftover processing time, so the process of moving anti-aliasing across from GPU to CPU is a good way to free up precious RSX resources, not to mention saving around 18MB of precious graphics RAM.
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Then you probably did not read the article. The MLAA is done by cell processors, not by the RSX GPU

And also MLAA saves graphics memory

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That's EXACTLY what I said. Did you not read?
MLAA is done by the cell processor. NOT the RSX GPU.
Therefore it saves GPU RAM. What didn't you understand there?

MLAA = saves GPU RAM and uses the CPU
QAA = uses GPU RAM by using the GPU.

Therefore, GPU RAM is saved by using MLAA. If GT5 had MLAA - then the GPU would not use it's RAM for QAA.

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Using MLAA in GT5 would've allowed them to make nicer environments or increase texture resolutions on things. It would've opened up a nice chunk of GPU RAM.
Using MLAA ; would've opened up a nice chunk of GPU RAM [had they used it in GT5]
I read the article 3 times over before you commented.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 2/20/11 at 10:43pm
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MLAA? Sounds like Multi Layered Anti Aliasing.
isnt it like, morphological anti aliasing?
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very nice read, but all the graphics in the world cant hid a bad story
I learned that from KZ2
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very nice read, but all the graphics in the world cant hid a bad story
I learned that from KZ2
KZ2's story was pretty awesome in my opinion. They say the story in KZ3 is terrible (only problem with the game, the ONLY problem from keeping it from being quite possible one of the best FPS games ever) but I'm intriguing to say the least just to see how it all turns out.
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GT5 has some kind of AA during replay though doesn't it? I rather get 60fps no AA in a racing game rather than 30fps with MLAA.
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KZ2's story was pretty awesome in my opinion. They say the story in KZ3 is terrible (only problem with the game, the ONLY problem from keeping it from being quite possible one of the best FPS games ever) but I'm intriguing to say the least just to see how it all turns out.
I like the story so far. Thanks to a local video game store I picked up my copy on friday Of course I'm only about an hour or two in so we'll see.

and yeah I liked KZ2's story too.
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I am really looking forward to playing this on my friends PS3, but its kind of funny how fast the health regen is.
    
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I like the story so far. Thanks to a local video game store I picked up my copy on friday Of course I'm only about an hour or two in so we'll see.

and yeah I liked KZ2's story too.
You lucky lucky dog you! Gah!
I kinda wish KZ3 was on the 360 just so I could download it early just like I did RE5 and then pickup the game at launch with a good head start. :-/ Gahhhhhhh I MUST HAVE IT.

Im glad to finally hear someone's opinion aside from the critics. Most have been totally slaughtering it, saying it's terribad for some reason. Most of them ignore it though because of the fantastic gameplay and multiplayer. Destructoid, who generally takes a biased stance against most PS3 games from the start, gave it a 10/10 which is pretty shocking. Granted, I find it somewhat wrong if the story is so flawed to give it a perfect score - but I have a feeling the other critics like Joystiq and IGN exaggerated it a tad.

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GT5 has some kind of AA during replay though doesn't it?
GT5 has 4xAA in 720p mode, 2xQAA in 1080p mode, and either 1xAA or QAA in 3D mode I forget.

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I rather get 60fps no AA in a racing game rather than 30fps with MLAA.
That's the point though: MLAA takes up little to no power and gives FANTASTIC looking AA that bests even 8x regular AA in alot of scenes. It has it's drawbacks, but for something like a racing game like GT5 - it would've allowed them to make a much better looking game without reducing FPS rates. It's win-win. They would effectively be enhancing how the game looks in several regards without taking a performance hit. The fantastic steady 60FPS rate that they have would be kept intact while making the game look better.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 2/20/11 at 10:41pm
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People really do under-estimate the power of the ps3 and 7800gt graphics card it has in it...
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