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I think at the time I purchased it Intel, Kingston, Mushkin, Crucial were all pricing between $150-180. V2 was regular price $150 with a $30 MIR. I didn't bother looking at Mushkin at the time cause it's never on sale whenever I look. If it did, then my loss. Kingston didn't fare well in a benchmark review by Anand. And Intel wasn't on sale. I'm not a fan of Crucial. So I went for V2.
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Intel is sticking to 34nm as well correct?
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Right on. Maybe when they get the cheaper 25nm drives sorted out I'll buy one. That must be the point... to reduce manufacturing cost and sell larger cap. drives. Cheers to Mushkin for staying honest about their situation.
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Intel is sticking to 34nm as well correct?
Funny enough, yes, that is what I have been told as well. I think that they will introduce 25nm in some lower end drives, but are sticking with 34nm for performance for now.
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The interesting thing is, while 25nm drives are slower than 34nm drives, at the same time the next generation controllers are coming out which should compensate for the difference, don't you think?
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The interesting thing is, while 25nm drives are slower than 34nm drives, at the same time the next generation controllers are coming out which should compensate for the difference, don't you think?
Most of the next-gen controllers will/have been designed taking 25nm more in mind, so I would imagine they will perform better with it. However, the lower P/E cycle is just part of the switch. The controllers use some fun features (wear leveling, write amplification, etc...) to help make them last longer. 3,000 P/E NAND should still last the normal long enough that they will likely replace the drive because something better has come along before it wears out.

As far as the switch goes, it'll happen to everyone eventually (us, Intel, Corsair) as the fabs get away from 34nm NAND. It's just the way the market works. We are sticking to 34nm as long as possible, and the consensus is we won't release 25nm products until we are satisfied all the kinks are worked out.
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If you've been looking at Mushkin drives on Newegg, you'll notice their tagline is "Complete with 34nm RAM..."
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Well, what do you make of this:

Mushkin Callisto deluxe "25nm Edition" 120GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive

http://forum.overclock3d.net/index.p...uxe-120gb-ssd/
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I believe it was mentioned earlier, but eventually we are going to have to move to 25nm. 34nm is out of production, so we stuck with it as long as we were able to get the NAND and still be competitive price-wise.

That said, we are making new part numbers and labeling any 25nm drives as such so there is no confusion (proper formatted capacity and performance figures). We'll continue to offer 34nm as long as we can, but not sure how long that will be at this point.
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lol fanboys alert! I personally will continue to buy stuff that have good customer reviews.
    
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