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bet you thought i wouldn't know the meaning

as us nvidia fanboi's often don't get out of mancave to experience awesome new things like dx10.1 and gddr5.

maybe i'm a bit biased towards nvidia, as they've never let me down, they've never failed on me, and never given me trouble (oh wait, there was that sli problem i had with 2 7800gt's, but that turned out to be a bad pci-e power connector on a psu that was about to go titts up, so i guess i will let you have that one...if you really really want to hit rock bottom and continue to dig.)

now the exp with ati, polar opposite, nothing but absolute grief, with desktop and laptop variants. most of the calls i get about graphics cards problem, first thing i say is "let me guess, ati radeon?" and they are all surprised "yes, how did you know?"
Yes...google is a wonderful thing...

I am stating I have had no issues with EITHER manufactor...but you have had NO issues with one and issues with another invalidates my point points towards a bias...if you look at some of my recent posts...I have recommended either ati or nvidia based on the OPs, budget, needs or ultimate goals... If that shows me as a fanboy then there is no hope here...

I know each side has their pros and cons...just tired of the same old ati/amd driver argument since i have multiple ati cards(in crossfire even) and have encountered no issues...and you immediately dismiss the operator error issue from the get go..but claiming nvidia driver installation have no problems or issues...I think alot of these"Help with ATI drivers" issues could be solved with a simple google search..
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I know each side has their pros and cons...just tired of the same old ati/amd driver argument since i have multiple ati cards(in crossfire even) and have encountered no issues...and you immediately dismiss the operator error issue from the get go..but claiming nvidia driver installation have no problems or issues...I think alot of these"Help with ATI drivers" issues could be solved with a simple google search..
ati/amd driver argument is valid, cause that is what is wrong 95% of the time when there is a problem with ati.

to arbitrary to dismiss the OP's problem as "pebkac" (that was the original second or third post on this thread, it appears it has been removed.), and then have 30 other ppl do the same thing, imho is not help.

i've grown tired of the whole "reinstall, reinstall, reinstall, it fixes all problems" or "user error, pebkac" type suggestions, its just not his forum, but everywhere. they are not helpful, or insightful, or even fix the problem, they just cover it up.

you were undeserving of my "wrath", but lets move past it if we can.
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Wow!!! so comparing a desktop card to a laptop chipset... *taps chin*...so a well ventilated desktop set as compared to a limited thermal capacity setup as a laptop... and it is the basis of your current opinion...I bow to your wisdom...
It not as if the laptop cards are made to generate less heat and use less energy... Drivers should run well regardless of its a desktop or a laptop. Thermal design has nothing to do with driver issues.
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you were undeserving of my "wrath", but lets move past it if we can.
I will admit I was being slightly fanboyish... but only pointing out in such areas where ATI has pushed Nvidia..and Nvidia has done the same in return, in the market in general...

Hell.. AMD as a CPU manufactor woke up intel with their original athlon series and AMD doing such pushed intel to make the core2 series to counter it...which most intel fans will state was a major innovation for them as compared to the P4 line... AMD have done such things as putting memory controller circuitry on their CPUs rather than the chipset, which prompted intel to rethink their strategy in regards to CPUs and chipsets...

All I am saying is having GOOD competition by both companies, cpu or gpu alike benefit the consumer in the end..either in innovation or price(sometimes both)
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I will admit I was being slightly fanboyish... but only pointing out in such areas where ATI has pushed Nvidia..and Nvidia has done the same in return, in the market in general...

Hell.. AMD as a CPU manufactor woke up intel with their original athlon series and AMD doing such pushed intel to make the core2 series to counter it...which most intel fans will state was a major innovation for them as compared to the P4 line... AMD have done such things as putting memory controller circuitry on their CPUs rather than the chipset, which prompted intel to rethink their strategy in regards to CPUs and chipsets...

All I am saying is having GOOD competition by both companies, cpu or gpu alike benefit the consumer in the end..either in innovation or price(sometimes both)
i buy intel cpus for the last, 4 years or so, cause they are just stomping the crap out of everything that amd has released.

i push amd's low end over and over, simply cause its a lot cheaper to build a amd low end, rig, than it is intel's.

but i can not in good conscious, push amd's high-end line, price ratio, when intel's midrange smacks it in the pepe.

i do hope that bulldozer does give sandy/ivy a good run, cause i'm looking to upgrade some time next year, and when amd and intel have equal footing, i win

there is nothing wrong with healthy competition and supporting a brand, when it deserves to be supported.
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inb4thelock....

My personal experience has been very varied, with both camps.
99% of my Nvidia installs have been problem free, my only problematic one is running SLi GTX460s on an AMD rig... but that was always bound the be trouble one way or another. Mostly it's just been plug it in, install drivers (very quickly I may add) and go.

On the other hand, my experiences with ATi have been far more variable. ATi stuff either works perfectly, or it is a nightmare. How about a chipset bug on an ATi chipset that prevents ATi graphics cards working right with HDMI? I spent 2 whole days trying to make a 4350 work in that s939 HTPC... Sure it was a single core Athlon 64 3400, but it should have been able to install some graphics drivers inside 2 hours... Not in the case of win vista (or XP) and that 4350 and a full CCC install. That same machine now has a GT220 which took under an hour to install and configure.
I've also seen ATi installs that went utterly perfectly, that same 4350 ended up in my rig for a while running one of my 3 displays, and was easy, quick and bulletproof. It's now in a friend's machine, and still 100% reliable.

TL;DR version: When ATi installs work, they are brilliant, when they don't it's a nightmare. Nvidia software is lower featured and dull, but it just works.
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Meh, I have 2 ATI cards and haven't had problems with 'em. Sure, I avoided 10.5 through 11.1, but people have to realize that Nvidia users do stuff like that too. There's little difference between 'em. The biggest difference, IMO, is that Nvidia drivers are impossible to get rid of while ATI drivers are easy to uninstall. I had to reinstall Windows to get my HD 5850 working because I couldn't get rid of Nvidia's crap.
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