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Hey Guys

Any ideas which virtualization Software is better

VMWare ESXi,
XEN Server
Windows Server 2008 R2 Hyper-v

Or if anyone else has any better ideas?

Please could you help me make a decision

my Custom Server is a Quad Core with 8GB Ram (Soon to b upgraded to 16GB)
Edited by snazy2000 - 2/20/11 at 9:52am
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Virtualization?
    
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Sorry I Ment virtualization
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I use VirtualBox. It is free and works great. Very easy to setup!
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Originally Posted by snazy2000;12456505 
Hey Guys

Any ideas which virtualization Software is better

VMWare ESXi,
XEN Server
Windows Server 2008 R2 Hyper-v

Or if anyone else has any better ideas?

Please could you help me make a decision

my Custom Server is a Quad Core with 8GB Ram (Soon to b upgraded to 16GB)

It depends on what you're going to do, the hardware you're going to be using and budget.
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Well I already have the hardware

I currently have server 2008 r2 Hyper-v But i was wondering if VMware ESXi or xen center is better Im a big fan of free software I got Windows Server 2008 r2 free because im a student wink.gif
post #7 of 32
the most important question is what you intend to do with your VMs...
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Having used all three of them, I'd go for ESXi, IF your hardware supports it. It's especially picky about network cards.
XEN is tough to set up, but works great.
Hyper-V is something that's specifically designed to annoy you. I've gotten the weirdest errors with it and it doesn't like one of the popular SAN systems (IIRC it's openfiler but I'm not sure). Also don't forget to pray if you have to reboot it because there's a fat chance it just stops working.

I hate HyperV with a passion. Steer clear.
    
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I have both HyperV and vSphere (ESX) going... again, it depends on your hardware.

VMWare's memory management capabilities can't be beat, especially if you have multiple guest VMs running the same OS.

Microsoft Hyper-V only just got dynamic memory support with the release of Hyper-V R2 SP1, but it's limited in functionality and not nearly as capable as VMWare's implementation. It's also guest-specific and only works with the last two generations of Microsoft's OS, and none of the Linux variants.

Also, bear in mind that CPU resources are usually the very last hardware resource that will get used up. "Quad core with 8GB of RAM" doesn't say much. I have 8 VMs running on a dual-core with 8GB of RAM on Hyper-V. CPU still sits mostly idle because the guests are not CPU intensive.

I have a second Hyper-V system with a Q6600 and 8GB of RAM, and that one runs fewer VMs because it has a weaker disk I/O subsystem - small 128GB SSD and 500GB RAID-1 WD Blacks; versus the RAID-10 array (4x500GB WD Black, Intel ICHR) in the dual-core Hyper-V system.

I've got another 10 VMs running on my ESX system (signature), and that total memory utilization is currently only at 8.5GB... But that system runs my most intense VMs simply because it's also got a 8-drive RAID-10 array. And this is what you should focus on. When it comes to virtualization, your first and second priority should be to ensure that your storage subsystem is robust enough, and that you have enough memory.

Networking resources and CPU resources will be consumed after disk I/O (either space of IOPS) and memory resources are exhausted.

For VMWare ESX, check out the Whitebox HCL for a list of community-supported whitebox hardware.

For Microsoft Hyper-V, check out the requirements for Server 2008 R2.
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post #10 of 32
XEN would be my first choice then ESXi, and Hyper-V, they are completely different tiers of virtualization, so be sure you research them before you choose which are best. For example Hyper-V will run within a OS, and ESXi will run from the system and you will not be able to use a Host OS without remotely connecting to it.
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