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post #11 of 32
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Originally Posted by Limes;12465194 
XEN would be my first choice then ESXi, and Hyper-V, they are completely different tiers of virtualization, so be sure you research them before you choose which are best. For example Hyper-V will run within a OS, and ESXi will run from the system and you will not be able to use a Host OS without remotely connecting to it.

Hyper-V is available as a bare-metal hypervisor implementation as well.
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post #12 of 32
ESXi gets my vote.

Like ComGuards said, the management features and other capabilities make it my preferred option for a bare-metal hypervisor.
    
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post #13 of 32
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Hyper-V is available as a bare-metal hypervisor implementation as well.
Is it? I must have missed that feature.
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post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by Limes View Post
Is it? I must have missed that feature.
http://www.microsoft.com/hyper-v-server/en/us/faq.aspx

Q. What is Hyper-V Server?

A. Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 is a stand-alone hypervisor-based server virtualization product that allows customers to virtualize workloads onto a single physical server. It provides a simplified, reliable and optimized virtualization solution that easily plugs into customers’ existing IT infrastructure enabling them to improve server utilization and reduce costs.

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post #15 of 32
I might be somewhat biased on this topic but I would suggest either Xen or Virtualbox. Both are excellent choices but Xen gives you a ton of features that you may want but not necessarily need.

virtual box is handy to just fire up a VM but if you want something you can leave up and running 24/7 I would go with Xen. Many people have opinions on which is better but I can say for a fact that Xen is solid. I currently use it in a 5,000+ server implementation and its pretty bad ass.
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post #16 of 32
You didn't say which OS your guests would be running. If you're going to be doing Windows keep in mind with Xen if you want to sit and click next-next-next for windows installs you have to use a Java VNC client. Obviously you can eventually enable RDP and use that afterwards. If your guests would be Linux or similar it's relatively easy to script the install/enable the SSH daemon for access. Linux is more designed for headless stuff so you should be good from there.

I use Xen almost every day at work but don't have a spare machine with the VM CPU extension at home so I can't experiment on my own

edit:
forgot to mention there's a video podcast called Hak5 that both has covered and is now covering over several episodes some cool VM setup/tricks step-by-step: http://hak5.org/
Edited by subassy - 2/22/11 at 5:54pm
 
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post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by subassy View Post
You didn't say which OS your guests would be running. If you're going to be doing Windows keep in mind with Xen if you want to sit and click next-next-next for windows installs you have to use a Java VNC client. Obviously you can eventually enable RDP and use that afterwards. If your guests would be Linux or similar it's relatively easy to script the install/enable the SSH daemon for access. Linux is more designed for headless stuff so you should be good from there.

I use Xen almost every day at work but don't have a spare machine with the VM CPU extension at home so I can't experiment on my own

edit:
forgot to mention there's a video podcast called Hak5 that both has covered and is now covering over several episodes some cool VM setup/tricks step-by-step: http://hak5.org/
You don't have to use anything special to access the VM. With Xen you use the Console and conduct your install, then manage the server via the Console, or via your remote access means of choice.
    
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post #18 of 32
Right, you create the Xen VM then you have to install Windows. It's CLI-only, no built-in way for accessing the Windows GUI installer. For creating partitions and setting the time etc. That's all I was trying to mention.
 
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post #19 of 32
I'm surprised to see so many people recommending Xen. It seems pretty unlikely that Xen will be around in another five years. Citrix can't afford to go on alone forever.
post #20 of 32
I'm pretty sure Xen is an open source project so I'm entirely unsure what you're referring to. Why is Xen going to die? Who...wah?

I only recommended it because it's what I use every day at work. If I was using KVM, VMWare or the MS Hyper-V thing I'd likely be recommending one of those right now. But that's me.
 
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