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I've been running my GTX 460 on a crappy 700W for awhile. Works fine.
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A 6850 might be a good choice. Last I checked it packs similar performance to GTX460 (with less OC capabilities though) but uses almost 50W less power under load.
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I will be gaming at 1440/900. Right now I'm running everything on high, no AA with around 20-30FPS

My PSU is manufactured by Fortron Source (They were really popular in 2006/2007). They made the internals for most OCZ PSU's. Pretty good quality.

If I wasn't shipping out to basic training in May, I'd totally buy a new PSU and a more expensive video card. But I can't really justify the purchases with only a few months left, LOL.

I feel like a 5770 might not be a big enough upgrade. What about a GTS450? Or is a 500W enough for a 460?
A 6850 may be what you're looking for, then. Similar power consumption to the 5770, and performance similar to the GTX 460. It is a bit more than your budget, but it's a good choice.

A GTS 450 is actually a bit less powerful than the 5770, so you might not want it. If your PSU is quality (I'll take your word that it is) then it can handle a 460 no problem at all. I had a 460 and an i5 760 running on a 430 watt Antec Earthwatts Green.

So, choice is down to GTX 460 or HD 6850. Although, honestly, the 5770 will easily max out BFBC2 at 1440/900 res, with x2 or x4 anti aliasing to boot.
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on that PSU I would go with a lower wattage card. That PSU Is known for bad efficiency takes a dive when it gets 2 hot. The 6850 should be ok.

Well Consider this your Rig draws around 200 watts & the 460 @ full load draws 280 watts right there is 480 watts. I doubt your PSU over the years is pushing what it used to push due to its age

A 6850 uses around 230 watts of Power @ full load
Would you advise against getting a GTX460 then? It seems like we have similar concerns.

Are there any reliable programs that I can use to monitor my PSU? Maybe fire up BFBC2 with loads of AA, and see how much the voltage drops....

The 6850 looks attractive if it draws 50W less....

SO MANY DECISIONS. THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR NOT PUMPING MY NERD MUSCLE FOR A WHILE.


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A 6850 may be what you're looking for, then. Similar power consumption to the 5770, and performance similar to the GTX 460. It is a bit more than your budget, but it's a good choice.

A GTS 450 is actually a bit less powerful than the 5770, so you might not want it. If your PSU is quality (I'll take your word that it is) then it can handle a 460 no problem at all. I had a 460 and an i5 760 running on a 430 watt Antec Earthwatts Green.

So, choice is down to GTX 460 or HD 6850. Although, honestly, the 5770 will easily max out BFBC2 at 1440/900 res, with x2 or x4 anti aliasing to boot.
Finding a cheap 6850 might be the way to go then. While I know the 5770 is better than my card, I don't know if it's a worthy enough upgrade--especially with the 'help' of a weaker CPU.
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Its a toss up to be honest. the 6850 cant oc like a 460 can but it does use less power & it is a great card none the less

Where are you getting either a 6850 or 460 at? My personal opinion is to go with the 6850 or even a 6870 thats me. Im not a fan boy of any sort I like both sides
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It depends on the pricing of GTX460 and 6850 where you live. GTX460 seems to be just a tad faster at low resolutions and Nvidia optimized games and 6850 seems to be a bit faster at high resolutions. On 1680x1050 they are very similar according to benchmarks so at 1440 Nvidia might have a slight edge of 2-3fps.
If they are similarly priced and you're fine with switching to ATI then it might be a good choice to get a 6850 considering that it uses less power. Personally I think that the GTX460 is a slightly better card overall. Just a tiny bit better because of overclocking capabilities (which you would not want to do on your PSU) and because I believe that Nvidia cards provide less trouble
Edited by szymon247 - 2/20/11 at 2:47pm
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460s are overclocking beasts though, you gotta remember that! I went from 675 MHz to 900 MHz.
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Stick with Nvidia for this game, My ex-5970 ran like crap with BC2. The gtx465Ti is the best bang for the buck. Sell the 8800gt and save for that card. Its Great! IN sli they kick ass too.
I disagree. BC2 favors ATI cards, especially the 6xxx series.

Edit: I second the notion of a 5770 not being as worthy an upgrade as a 6850. For the price difference, you're far better off going with a 6850.
Also, reference to BC2 benchmarks.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...s,2776-13.html
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on that PSU I would go with a lower wattage card. That PSU Is known for bad efficiency takes a dive when it gets 2 hot. The 6850 should be ok.

Well Consider this your Rig draws around 200 watts & the 460 @ full load draws 280 watts right there is 480 watts. I doubt your PSU over the years is pushing what it used to push due to its age

A 6850 uses around 230 watts of Power @ full load
No. Please don't misinform fellow users. A 460 uses NO WHERE NEAR 280 watts. A 6850 under load uses NO WHERE NEAR 230 watts. More like 115-120 watts. (by comparison, a 460 uses 140-160 watts maximum)

You're confusing the FULL SYSTEM power load with the GPU power load. When reviewers make charts and comments to this effect, you will see it includes the full system, from the plug-in at the wall. It also isn't taking PSU efficiency into account.

His entire system, with a 460, would use around ~280-300 watts at full (gaming) load. With a 6850, it would use around ~260-280 watts from the plug.

Edit: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/n...he-200-king/17 Note in the power consumption graph "Total system power consumption, in watts." Conveniently, the 8800gt is also on the chart, so you can see how (little) your power usage will increase with a 460. (roughly 32 watts while playing Crysis)

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Finding a cheap 6850 might be the way to go then. While I know the 5770 is better than my card, I don't know if it's a worthy enough upgrade--especially with the 'help' of a weaker CPU.
Your CPU is fine, but if it's going to be a bottleneck, it will hold both cards back to the same degree, i.e. it would be pointless to buy a higher-end card because your CPU will be the determining factor in your minimum and average frame rates.

I hope that makes sense. Sometimes, I'm terrible at explanations.

I still stand by my recommendations, 5770 if you want cheap, or 6850/ GTX 460 768mb if you want higher-end. It's down to preference whether you like Nvidia or Ati/AMD.
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Since we're between Nvidia and ATI there's another thing that switching from Nvidia to Nvidia might be less trouble-prone than Nvidia to ATI if you're not willing to format your system.

Also bare in mind that most versions of GTX 460 are OCd out of the box which makes them much faster than the reference one which makes them faster than 6850 and still more prone to further overclocking. Also MSI and Gigabyte versions of GTX 460 are pre-overclocked and pack amazing cooling. Quiet and efficient. Sure they drain more power though.
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