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Upgrading GPU - Will my System bottlekneck? @Recommendations

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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT SLi
Memory: 4096 DDR2 @ 800mhz.
Soundcard: ASUS XONAR D2X
Windows 7 64-bit
Motherboard: nVidia 650i SLi
PSU: (DELL D750E-00) Delta 750W OEM unit


Hello.

I'm considering replacing my Current GPU with either ASUS GeForce GTX 560Ti 1GB or ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU 1GB. Depending on:

1. How much if any, bottleneck will occur If I upgrade to either GPU?
I play games at 1920x1200; World of Warcraft. Empire Total War. In the future; Crysis2. And other demanding games.

2. Will my PSU handle the purchase of either the 460 or 560. If I also upgrade my PC with a Core i7 I7-2600K 8 MB ? (CPU will only be purchased if bottleneck is to much of an issue, if any at all.)

3. Is the Core i7 I7-2600K 8 MB Overkill? and if so. Any recommendations to a cheaper CPU that will do the job without problems? The reason for me to consider the i7 is so I wouldn't need to upgrade within the next few years.

~ Thank you in advance for taking your time and reading my post. Much appreciated!
best regards.
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post #2 of 12
2.Delta doesn't make GREAT psu's.
3.I think an i5 2500k would be sufficient if you're only gaming
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post #3 of 12
Yes, BUT, if you Overclock your Systems 2.33GHz Processor then you will be Bottleneck free. Also if you want to play games then get the GTX560Ti, It is more expensive than the GTX460 by ~$100USD but you will see way better performance than a GTX460
post #4 of 12
Your system will handle a GTX560Ti and a GTX460 but I reccomend the GTX570, also getting that processor is an overkill for the games you play. If you can overclock the Processor you already have no Processor upgrades will be necessary. If you can overclock then do it to atleast 2.8GHz. If you can't then get an Intel Core i5 2600k
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Is this an OEM computer? If so, OCing his CPU is out of the question.

At 2.33GHz your CPU will hold back a 460 or 560, though either would still be a fair upgrade for you. If you plan on upgrading everything, you can get away with a high clocked i3 as far as gaming is concerned, though I would agree the i5 2500k will probably be the best bang for your buck once the SB recall is finished.

If you're sticking with a single card, the 560 is ~25% faster than a 460 stock and about 10% faster clock for clock.
post #6 of 12
Your system will handle any GPU out there. Ignore the Delta hater, Delta makes perfectly fine PSU's. If it says 750w, it's very likely 750w actual.

You do need to overclock that processor though. 2.33GHz isn't enough for gaming. Try to get that thing up to 3.2GHz or higher, and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Booty Warrior View Post
Is this an OEM computer? If so, OCing his CPU is out of the question.

At 2.33GHz your CPU will hold back a 460 or 560, though either would still be a fair upgrade for you. If you plan on upgrading everything, you can get away with a high clocked i3 as far as gaming is concerned, though I would agree the i5 2500k will probably be the best bang for your buck once the SB recall is finished.

If you're sticking with a single card, the 560 is ~25% faster than a 460 stock and about 10% faster clock for clock.
Ditto to that, if you can't overclock becuase it is an OEM system then get a new processor, just make sure that your motherboards socket is compatible with the processor you want to purchase. YOU SHOULD ONLY DO THIS IF YOU CANNOT OVERCLOCK
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
Your system will handle any GPU out there. Ignore the Delta hater, Delta makes perfectly fine PSU's. If it says 750w, it's very likely 750w actual.

You do need to overclock that processor though. 2.33GHz isn't enough for gaming. Try to get that thing up to 3.2GHz or higher, and you'll be fine.
Well, not top tier or that efficient, but it'll work
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post #9 of 12
you definitely should try to overclock this CPU, but it's probably not an easy task with mult 7x and NF650, also if I'm not mistaken the Asus NF650 boards are quite problematic with some new cards (mainly ATI 5xxx and newer),

but since the 9800GT SLI is not that weak, maybe it would be better to not get anything below a 560 ti, to enjoy some greater gains...
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I would just like to point out an "upgrade" to an i5 2500k or i7 2600k wouldn't be that simple, as you're going to practically need to build an entirely new computer. You'll need the CPU, motherboard, and RAM at a minimum?


I know I'm stating the obvious, but it seems he may have overlooked this.
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