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It's Scientifically Treated Petroleum. It was very popular before all of the little 4 cyl econo boxes took over. It helped extend the life of regular motor oil and helped keep the viscosity level from dropping from one oil change to the next. It's basically outdated technology now, but in the 50's thru the 80's it was THE additive of choice.

Google is your friend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STP_%28motor_oil_company%29

And Caliper Lube isn't nearly as thick as wheel bearing grease. In fact, it's ideal for sleeve bearings in fans. The only catch is you can't just put a few drops in the opening and allow it to seep down like you can the other lubes in ehumes guide. You have to pull the bub off, remove the i-rings, slide the sleeve off of the shaft, apply the new lube, replace the shaft and o-rings, apply more lube to the outside of the sleeve, then finish assembling the fan. That takes more time, but it lasts a LOT longer than just dropping some oil into the opening. You will probably lose about 100 rpms or so until the fan has run for a couple of weeks, but otherwise it works great.
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf;13076827 
It's Scientifically Treated Petroleum. It was very popular before all of the little 4 cyl econo boxes took over. It helped extend the life of regular motor oil and helped keep the viscosity level from dropping from one oil change to the next. It's basically outdated technology now, but in the 50's thru the 80's it was THE additive of choice.

Google is your friend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STP_%28motor_oil_company%29

And Caliper Lube isn't nearly as thick as wheel bearing grease. In fact, it's ideal for sleeve bearings in fans. The only catch is you can't just put a few drops in the opening and allow it to seep down like you can the other lubes in ehumes guide. You have to pull the bub off, remove the i-rings, slide the sleeve off of the shaft, apply the new lube, replace the shaft and o-rings, apply more lube to the outside of the sleeve, then finish assembling the fan. That takes more time, but it lasts a LOT longer than just dropping some oil into the opening. You will probably lose about 100 rpms or so until the fan has run for a couple of weeks, but otherwise it works great.

have you by chance heard of Liquid Ring oil additive? Its SUPER amazing, if you put it in, and then run your engine, you can HEAR the engine noises just DISAPPEAR within 20 minutes. Its simply AMAZING.
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post #13 of 27
Like 99% of oil additives it's nothing but snake oil. Check the label to see if it has PTFE in it. If it does, it doesn't really do anything for you. The ONLY oil additives that actually work well are Lucas and Rislone. Lucas for everyday use, and Rislone to clean your oil passages gently without harming anything.

All stuff like Liquid Ring, Motor Honey, STP, etc. do to quiet engines is increase the viscosity (re: make the oil thicker) to cushion the metal better. It robs horsepower and lowers gas mileage, and in many cases causes the engines to wear out faster.
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post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf;13077031 
Like 99% of oil additives it's nothing but snake oil. Check the label to see if it has PTFE in it. If it does, it doesn't really do anything for you. The ONLY oil additives that actually work well are Lucas and Rislone. Lucas for everyday use, and Rislone to clean your oil passages gently without harming anything.

All stuff like Liquid Ring, Motor Honey, STP, etc. do to quiet engines is increase the viscosity (re: make the oil thicker) to cushion the metal better. It robs horsepower and lowers gas mileage, and in many cases causes the engines to wear out faster.

Liquid Ring dosnt do the performance lag/fuel mileage lag because of how insanely slippery it is. It also dosnt cause premature wear, because it coats metal parts and pretty much causes a never dry start position.
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And those are the exact same false claims all of the other's have made and have proven to have been lies. There was a court case in 1994 that have prevented all of these products from making those claims any longer since they were all proven false. I would need to see a link to the actual product on the manufacturer's site to know 100% for certain, but I am 99.999999% sure I am right about it. Just look to see if it lists PTFE as one of the ingredients. If it does, it's Snake Oil.

But this is taking this thread off topic as it's highly doubtful that it's suitable for this purpose.
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I use this for my skate's bearings. It should be great for fans, don't you think so?
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Originally Posted by cloppy007;13482251 
I use this for my skate's bearings. It should be great for fans, don't you think so?

Oh yeah, that stuff would be AMAZING on fan ball bearings. Specially coz it has teflon in it. That stuff GLIDES real smoothly. Almost no friction between balls and races.
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I think a video tutorial on how to oil the bearings would be welcomed. Haven't found any frown.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cloppy007;13499311 
I think a video tutorial on how to oil the bearings would be welcomed. Haven't found any frown.gif

Look at item 3 in my sig. I use the same method for lubing ball bearing fans. I'm not sure that lithium grease would be an improvement.
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Quote:
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Look at item 3 in my sig. I use the same method for lubing ball bearing fans. I'm not sure that lithium grease would be an improvement.

But that only involves, and not the ball races. Do you only oil the rotor? I think that doesn't have any effect on ball bearing fans. If I don't clean and oil my skate's bearings, they won't roll fast enough.

In this thread there are pictures on how to remove the bearing. Any "how to oil ball bearings" search will return a few good tutorials, but it might not be worth the effort. If the bearings wore out, opening them and adding oil won't magically return them to perfect condition.
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