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post #3591 of 9900

my ch5f update

it turns out that my corsair tx750w power supply is bad (1 year old)

my corsair tx750w power supply test good with 2 different power supply checkers

but i hooked the power supply to a different motherboard and it would not post

i picked up a thermaltake tr2 850w and hooked it up to my ch5f and it posted

i contacted asus and canceled my rma

i will contact corsair for a power supply rma


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alright guys I have another question here. With my old motherboard(Asus M4A88TD-V EVO) when the system was idle. My cpu frequency downclocked and voltages dropped accordingly to save power and so the processor isnt loaded with 100% voltage. I am noticing with the CHV that although the processor frequency drops as before, the voltage stays at 100%(I'm at stock clocks and its at 1.32v). What settings do I have to play with to get the voltage to come down when the system is idle or under minor load? I already have Cool N Quiet and C1E enabled in the BIOS

I've been meaning to post on the general topic of power management for a while, so this is as good a time as any.

I believe the short answer to your question is to make sure Vcore isn't manually set in BIOS to a specific value, but rather to Auto as was already suggested.

This may not be desirable because BIOS will set voltages like Vcore and CPU-NB to a higher safe value to ensure system stability but this has a detrimental effect of generating excess heat.

A longer answer follows.

Before coming to the C5F, I was using an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless. To take advantage of the wonderful overclockability (is this a word?) of this board, I needed to be able to control the NB voltage, so CnQ in BIOS was out of the question. A number of alternative solutions were out there, but the one I eventually settled on was PhenomMSRTweaker (PMT), MSR standing for machine state register. I was able to with this setup run the NB up at 2000MHz, which was a very nice performance bump of 25%.

When I moved over to the C5F, I took PMT along and was determined to make it work under Windows 7 64-bit. Fortunately it works. The extra trick I had to apply on our board was when creating my power states was to not allow the highest power state P0 be in the active config of its CnQ feature. In this way, I am able to clamp the highest power state to something lower that still allows me to OC my 965 at 3.9GHz and run the CPU-NB at a higher frequency as well. Both Vcore and CPU-NB voltages run at around 1V with a CPU frequency of 1GHz when idling. I will say that one of the better feature of the C5F is its ability to set the proper HT bus multiplier and hold the desired target frequency of 2000MHz. All of this done with the stock BE heatsink.

Once I have watercooling in place, I should be able to remove the clamp if I can get a P95 stable setup over 4GHz, which I fully expect to achieve.

If there is enough interest in the details, I can post pics of the PMT settings I use.

Good luck.
Edited by gr8sho - 4/6/12 at 5:01pm
post #3593 of 9900
Updated, im using an 8120 now in my Crosshair V =D and LOVING it

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2322931 for Proof
post #3594 of 9900
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Originally Posted by galbrecht71 View Post

i built mine with the same combo less than a month ago and didnt have any problem with that. My current issue i doubt has anything to do with BIOS so i think you are fine

are you oc'ing your rig? if so how high and can you give me some tips on the settings you are using?
post #3595 of 9900
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neither of those show a change for me either,
however HWiNFO64 does
http://www.hwinfo.com/download64.html

700

My god where has this free monitor been with graphing + log and a accurate NB temp...all the bells and whistles tx! thumb.gif

Just ran this well playing BF3 for the first time on the new build ! everything runs flawlessly and with good temps!

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?9339-Crosshair-V-NB-Temperature-Sensor link to where i identified t0,t1,t2,t3
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post #3596 of 9900
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Originally Posted by gr8sho View Post

I've been meaning to post on the general topic of power management for a while, so this is as good a time as any.
I believe the short answer to your question is to make sure Vcore isn't manually set in BIOS to a specific value, but rather to Auto as was already suggested.
This may not be desirable because BIOS will set voltages like Vcore and CPU-NB to a higher safe value to ensure system stability but this has a detrimental effect of generating excess heat.
A longer answer follows.
Before coming to the C5F, I was using an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless. To take advantage of the wonderful overclockability (is this a word?) of this board, I needed to be able to control the NB voltage, so CnQ in BIOS was out of the question. A number of alternative solutions were out there, but the one I eventually settled on was PhenomMSRTweaker (PMT), MSR standing for machine state register. I was able to with this setup run the NB up at 2000MHz, which was a very nice performance bump of 25%.
When I moved over to the C5F, I took PMT along and was determined to make it work under Windows 7 64-bit. Fortunately it works. The extra trick I had to apply on our board was when creating my power states was to not allow the highest power state P0 be in the active config of its CnQ feature. In this way, I am able to clamp the highest power state to something lower that still allows me to OC my 965 at 3.9GHz and run the CPU-NB at a higher frequency as well. Both Vcore and CPU-NB voltages run at around 1V with a CPU frequency of 1GHz when idling. I will say that one of the better feature of the C5F is its ability to set the proper HT bus multiplier and hold the desired target frequency of 2000MHz. All of this done with the stock BE heatsink.
Once I have watercooling in place, I should be able to remove the clamp if I can get a P95 stable setup over 4GHz, which I fully expect to achieve.
If there is enough interest in the details, I can post pics of the PMT settings I use.
Good luck.

so you say to leave all voltages at auto. my question is, how will this work when overclocking? If it overvolts they way it does for stock speeds, I can only imagine the voltage it would pump out when overclocked to lets say 4Ghz. Which is what I am hoping to get to again with this board.

Your "long answer" kind of confused me. Some of the abreviations I did not get. And I am still learning all this board has to offer in terms of settings and features.

Also, what are average temps for the NB? I notice mine like to idle at about 40C to lower 40's. And while gaming it climbs up into the upper 40's/low 50's. I have read numerous time all over the web that the 990fx chipset like to run warmer than all of its predecessors, but do the above temps seem right?


I am also taking a look at the HWinfo screen. Skimming through everything it shows and I am at a bit of confusion in terms of voltages. It shows one value for Vcore, another value for core VID, and two other values that very well can be core voltages. which ones it the correct one to look at? And no core temperature readings?
Edited by mwl5apv - 4/7/12 at 12:30am
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so you say to leave all voltages at auto. my question is, how will this work when overclocking? If it overvolts they way it does for stock speeds, I can only imagine the voltage it would pump out when overclocked to lets say 4Ghz. Which is what I am hoping to get to again with this board.
Your "long answer" kind of confused me. Some of the abreviations I did not get. And I am still learning all this board has to offer in terms of settings and features.
Also, what are average temps for the NB? I notice mine like to idle at about 40C to lower 40's. And while gaming it climbs up into the upper 40's/low 50's. I have read numerous time all over the web that the 990fx chipset like to run warmer than all of its predecessors, but do the above temps seem right?
I am also taking a look at the HWinfo screen. Skimming through everything it shows and I am at a bit of confusion in terms of voltages. It shows one value for Vcore, another value for core VID, and two other values that very well can be core voltages. which ones it the correct one to look at? And no core temperature readings?

Here is a simple explanation of VID.

Yes to your question on setting Vcore to Auto. It is also true that BIOS will set it higher than really needed which is why being able to control it from within the OS is important as well. PMT can do this.

Agree that AMD chipset runs a bit warm when comparing it to the Nvidia 590 I was using previously.

CoreTemp and its associated gadget are generally accepted to provide accurate feedback for CPU temps you want to monitor. I leave this running all the time.

Tell me what abbreviations I gave that were confusing and I'll try to clear that up.
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Updated BIOS to 1301 today. Unfortunately performance of USB 3.0 didn't increase. That's not to say that it wasn't working right before, but for some reason I was thinking a Windows incremental backup might be faster than what I'm seeing.

I also had the pleasure of getting to restore all my changed BIOS settings. rolleyes.gif

Overall painless though, no noticeable changes, didn't have any stability issues before, so it might not be possible to see any changes whatsoever.

Played around with the CPU/NB voltage setting. PMT cannot deal with this properly, and leaving BIOS set to Auto when CPU base frequency is increased from 200 to 250, is a disaster. BIOS voltage monitor shows the actual value up at over 1.6V, so I manually set it back to 1.325V, which is where I had it set previously.
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Updated, im using an 8120 now in my Crosshair V =D and LOVING it
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2322931 for Proof

Nice thumb.gif , I love mine
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Updated BIOS to 1301 today. Unfortunately performance of USB 3.0 didn't increase. That's not to say that it wasn't working right before, but for some reason I was thinking a Windows incremental backup might be faster than what I'm seeing.
I also had the pleasure of getting to restore all my changed BIOS settings. rolleyes.gif
Overall painless though, no noticeable changes, didn't have any stability issues before, so it might not be possible to see any changes whatsoever.
Played around with the CPU/NB voltage setting. PMT cannot deal with this properly, and leaving BIOS set to Auto when CPU base frequency is increased from 200 to 250, is a disaster. BIOS voltage monitor shows the actual value up at over 1.6V, so I manually set it back to 1.325V, which is where I had it set previously.

Updated to 1301 last week. After resetting my settings as did you, I did find increases in my Sandra-Pro 2012 benchmarks for my standard "everyday" OC of 4200, auto voltages except CPU/NB (as per your discovery which I made a while back myself) to 1.275. The average increase was about 4.4% raw output power and a memory bandwidth increase of .8 MB. I also keep my CPU VDDA at 2.6 and set my DRAM switching frequency to 2X.

Overall, I think that Asus did a great job with this bios upgrade after their blunder with the 12xx. For those who are satisfied with 1102 and don't want to hassle with eeking every FLOP out of your processor, you won't be excited with 1301 - but I am!

Ya'll have fun.

EDIT - BTW, for those of you with Phenom II's, when I was still using my 1090T, I found that staying with 200 FSB but raising the NB to 2800 (CPU/NB voltage to 1.32) and HT at 2000, with NB core voltage at 1.2 and HT at 1.275 allowed me the best opportunity tor OC'ing into the 4.1+ range. I also kept my DRAM at 1600 with appropriate timings and voltages as per SPD (more or less). The tough part was finding an appropriate CPU core voltage for the application. Prime 95 never stablized below 1.425 if was going for 4.2, and 1.375 was perfect for a 3.9 "everyday" OC. Just a thought, but I have no experience with the 9XX Phenom II's, so this edit could be a complete waste of time!
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