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post #3611 of 9900
I get a new motherboard in the next 2 days wheee.gif Hopefully this one wont break.
    
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I get a new motherboard in the next 2 days wheee.gif Hopefully this one wont break.

good luck!
I'm gonna fire up the board I finally got back from RMA tonight and hope all goes well.. *crosses fingers*
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alright guys I have another question here. With my old motherboard(Asus M4A88TD-V EVO) when the system was idle. My cpu frequency downclocked and voltages dropped accordingly to save power and so the processor isnt loaded with 100% voltage. I am noticing with the CHV that although the processor frequency drops as before, the voltage stays at 100%(I'm at stock clocks and its at 1.32v). What settings do I have to play with to get the voltage to come down when the system is idle or under minor load? I already have Cool N Quiet and C1E enabled in the BIOS

This is more of an edit to my previous response. I forgot the obvious answer: In control panel, make sure your power setting are at balanced or power saver. With the Phenom II's, you don't have the C6 state options as do the BZ's. Use C&Q with C1E, yes. However, they won't work without MS Windows power settings set below High Performance.

Hope this helps.

Have more fun!

I played around with settings and have come up with this. I went ahead and set my vcore back to auto(its ramped up to 1.38v in BIOS) and I currently have my MS power settings at balanced. with a processor state set at min- 15% and max 100%. With HwMonitor the vcore no drops as it should with the clocks. But I cannot figure out whether this is CnQ and C1e doing this or windows itself. Im going to be playing around with settings a little more to see wha I can come up with.


But on your statement on CnQ and C1e wont work if your MS power settings are below high performance...can you elaborate on this?
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I played around with settings and have come up with this. I went ahead and set my vcore back to auto(its ramped up to 1.38v in BIOS) and I currently have my MS power settings at balanced. with a processor state set at min- 15% and max 100%. With HwMonitor the vcore no drops as it should with the clocks. But I cannot figure out whether this is CnQ and C1e doing this or windows itself. Im going to be playing around with settings a little more to see wha I can come up with.
But on your statement on CnQ and C1e wont work if your MS power settings are below high performance...can you elaborate on this?

he is saying the power must be set below high performance for CnQ to work

i posted about this in the asus rog forums but no one has responded
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?12599-CHV-phenom-ii-voltage-not-decreasing-with-clock-for-cool-n-quiet&p=91235#post91235
i can't tell if it's windows or the bios that's causing it
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he is saying the power must be set below high performance for CnQ to work
i posted about this in the asus rog forums but no one has responded
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?12599-CHV-phenom-ii-voltage-not-decreasing-with-clock-for-cool-n-quiet&p=91235#post91235
i can't tell if it's windows or the bios that's causing it

I must have misread the reply when I skimmed through it. Thanks for the clear up. hopefully someone on the ROG forum replies as well. And I shall continue playing with BIOS settings to see what I can learn and come up with. Now, I read no to far back about setting LLC to auto as well. Why is this? Wouldn't we want more control over out load voltages?

Now I read through this thread in multiple spots. that us being CHV owner we get "VIP" treatment or membership with asus and get certain perks. Like they cross ship us a motherboard first and we send ours in after that so there is no down time. Any other information on that anywhere? Ive have skimmed through the ROG site and ASUS site without any really definitive information.
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I must have misread the reply when I skimmed through it. Thanks for the clear up. hopefully someone on the ROG forum replies as well. And I shall continue playing with BIOS settings to see what I can learn and come up with. Now, I read no to far back about setting LLC to auto as well. Why is this? Wouldn't we want more control over out load voltages?
Now I read through this thread in multiple spots. that us being CHV owner we get "VIP" treatment or membership with asus and get certain perks. Like they cross ship us a motherboard first and we send ours in after that so there is no down time. Any other information on that anywhere? Ive have skimmed through the ROG site and ASUS site without any really definitive information.

i have LLC on extreme. setting it higher counteracts vdroop when under load.

the ROG guide has this to say:

CPU Load Line Calibration: The “Regular” option sets a margin between the user set voltage and the actual voltage to ensure that the real-time voltage level does not breach (overshoot) the set VID by longer than AMD specifications.
Medium and High, set a tighter margin between the idle and full load voltage, so that idle voltage does not need to be ramped excessively to meet full-load voltage requirements when the processor is overclocked.

Ultra-High and Extreme may over-volt past what you’ve set in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the voltage does not sag below the applied voltage for a long duration (when the VRM is faced with a heavy load). Auto is currently configured to default to Extreme LLC, so it's an idea to set Medium or High manually if you do not want any visible over-voltage.
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A couple of comments about Phenom II's and CHV:

1. The CHV was built for the Bulldozer processors.
2. When I had my 1090T on an M4N98TD-EVO (AM3 socket), I had the exact same issue with idle temps and voltages. When I bought the CHV in anticipation that I would (and did) buy an FX-8150, my 1090T still had issues with idle temps and voltages. In BOTH cases, the idle voltage was 1.3+ up to 1.414. Why? I don't know. What I DO know is that when I put a load on the processor, the voltages would go down - and depending on the OC would either stay a bit lower or go higher. AMD calls this built in phenomenon "Load Line Calibration." On the CHV's YOU CAN OVERRIDE THIS by going into the Digi+ Power menu three lines down from the DRAM timing menu on the first page of the UEFI bios.
3. In auto, LLC defaults to "Extreme." You just have to play with your CPU multipliers and LLC settings (takiing copious notes because no two systems are alike).
4. In "normal" LLC, your set voltage is supposed to stay the same throughout your loads (benchmarks, P95, IBT, etc.) from idle on up.
5. If your CHV is OLDER than the 0813 bios, remarks from 3 and 4 don't work very well because of a faulty bios chip which ASUS will replace for you free of charge and ship to you free of charge. I know, because I bought mine the week it came out and have replaced my bios chip.
6. With a Bulldozer processor, you get a C6 state option which eliminates the Phenom idle phenomenon (pun intended). I run my 8150 at 4200, with Windows Power Control at High Performance and the CPU voltage setting at auto and it idles at .9v and between 12-18 degrees centigrade. Very cool.
7. Others here have recently recommended PMT and have used it successfully with their Phenom II's. Since I have NOT used my 1090T with the new bios chip, I should just be honest and withdraw all my previous help to those of you with the 9XX BE chips. I do know that as you adjust your LLC settings, it is possible to achieve better idle temps but since I had the identical problem (which, by the way, I never considered a problem, just a curiosity) with the M4N98, I think this issue may be a non-starter. If there are others more experienced using the Phenom II's with the CHV, I would listen to them. Personally, I was able to OC my 1090T better with the M4N than the CHV anyway. Again, the CHV was designed primarily for the Bulldozers.

What I said about the hibernation file still goes, of course. I know my W7 stuff! But from what I've read on this thread since I posted replies this past weekend, I have to apologize because my information may have muddied the waters with old or misleading information.
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Nope not going to get it back this week D:

I need to phone then to arrange where it needs to get delivered to but every time I try and phone no one answers. It's not like I'm phoning during closing hours either. This is why I hate talking on the phone when it comes to things like this, I don't see why it can't be done over e-mail.
    
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someone on the rog forum informed me that using offset voltage instead of manual will fix the issue with cool n quiet
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so Asus in all their wisdom, shipped me my board back with bios 0506.. and here I was thinking "oh, they'll put the latest official bios on it"
nope.. just spent the last hour fighting with it trying to get it to boot with my fx 8120 in it, but wait! the 0506 bios isn't compatible with the FX chips! doh.gif
had to tear apart my file server (phenom II) to get it to boot up. Thanks for nothing Asus! sozo.gifbuttkick.gif
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Xeon X5650 Xeon X5650 Supermicro X8DTL-iF-O Galaxy GT210 1gb 
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96gb DDR3 ECC Corsair Force 3 60gb (boot) 3TB Hitachi x 12 1TB Hitachi x 12 
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Noctua NH-U12DX Noctua NH-U12DX Windows Server 2012 R2 Corsair HX 1050 
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Norco RPC 4224 LSI Megaraid Sas 9261-8I Intel RES2CV240 20 Port SAS Expander 
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