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Must be a typo/accident lol
now that sounds like me lol
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hey guys, I am finally in the process of overclocking my Phenom II again and have a few questions to ask.
First off I am in a little bit of confusion in terms of my Vcore voltages. I am getting 3 different readings and am not sure which one to go off of. HwMonitor shows 1.37 vCore. Cbut a little further down I have a voltage known as VIN0 that bounces around from 1.368-1.389v as well. I am assuming it is another core voltage reading because it is almost spot on with the other two. My question is which voltage should I go off of?
vCore vs VIN0-1.jpg 782k .jpg file
Secondly, To keep CnQ I have to use offset voltages in the BIOS(otherwise CnQ is overridden the cpu stays at 100% voltage at all times) and it seems that I don't have that fine tuned control over voltage I had when I just plugged in values with my old motherboard. I am in the process of using different combos of offset voltage and LLC settings to try and achieve those "grey areas" of voltage that I can't achieve with offset alone(with offset, I have options to + or - in increments of .00625 but for example with a setting of -.00625 load voltage hovers at 1.368-1.382 under load depending on which program I am looking at. If I go another tick down to -0 aka, auto, load voltage is as high as 1.42-1.44v, cpu LLC is set to high) Why are the differences in voltage so high? where did everything in between the stated voltages go?
Any ideas? or tips and tricks in using offset voltages? Or am I missing something with CnQ not working when using standard values for voltage? I am having a harder time overclocking and fine tuning my overclock with this high end board in comparison to my older motherboard. Maybe its just the fact that I have so much more control over everything. But any and all help would be much appreciated
EDIT: Also, when I go through and set my frequencies in the BIOS. It shows me a target frequency, which is what I am trying to achieve, and a "current frequency" which ends up showing 50mhz higher than my target. what is this and why?

use HwMonitor vCore or better use ASUS AI Suite II V1.02.03 download from asus

 

as the cpu loaded varies it will need more or less voltage and the board will vary the voltage with the auto features it will compensate as needed

 

when overclocking and loading the cpu it consumes more current and therefor you will get a voltage drop as the load increases

 

the LLC when set higher will compensate for the voltage drop as the load on the cpu varies the voltage will vary

 

i like to use offset with + or - voltage and then set the LLC to compensate for voltage drop

 

the most important part is to keep the cpu temperatures below maximum factory spec

 

with auto setting the board will have a tendency to set to maximum

 

there is some auto overclocking and balancing built into the board hence the increase in frequency


Edited by Tweeky - 5/9/12 at 9:31pm
 
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post #3783 of 9900
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use HwMonitor vCore or better use ASUS AI Suite II V1.02.03 download from asus

as the cpu loaded varies it will need more or less voltage and the board will vary the voltage with the auto features it will compensate as needed

when overclocking and loading the cpu it consumes more current and therefor you will get a voltage drop as the load increases

the LLC when set higher will compensate for the voltage drop as the load on the cpu varies the voltage will vary

i like to use offset with + or - voltage and then set the LLC to compensate for voltage drop

the most important part is to keep the cpu temperatures below maximum factory spec

with auto setting the board will have a tendency to set to maximum

there is some auto overclocking and balancing built into the board hence the increase in frequency

I am currently doing the same. I am playing around with the LLC settings along with a specific + or - voltage(mainly - as I know for a fact I do not need more that 1.4v to achieve the overclock I want) to find that sweet spot. But what do you mean by "with auto setting the board will have a tendency to set to maximum"?

ok, I will use HwMonitor as always then. I just got a little confused as to which program and which of the voltages in the previously attached image to look at. I've done a fair amount overclocking in the past but this is my first time with this specific board. I know about max temps, with this cpu I like to stay right around the 50*C mark at maximum.


On another note, has anyone noticed stability differences in using a high multipliers as opposed to reference clock speeds? and vice versa? I am trying to get 224*17.5 stable on the cpu currently and am wondering if it might be easier t stabilize with a higher multiplier as opposed to ref. clock.
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post #3784 of 9900

if you set the cpu voltage to auto the board will have a tendency to set the cpu voltage to the maximum allowed for the cpu

 

this board has a very good FSB therefor i'd set the FSB higher and the mult lower  (like 240 16.5x)


Edited by Tweeky - 5/9/12 at 10:05pm
 
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if you set the cpu voltage to auto the board will have a tendency to set the cpu voltage to the maximum allowed for the cpu

this board has a very good FSB therefor i'd set the FSB higher and the mult lower  (like 240 16.5x)

ok, thanks for the clear up, and can anyone else vouch for using the ref clock more than the multi?
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on mine, I can bump my clock up pretty high, but whenever i change the multi past 16.5 or 17 it loses stability, so I can vouch for high clocks low multi.
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ok, thanks for the clear up, and can anyone else vouch for using the ref clock more than the multi?


Well at the moment I have mine FSB at 250 and multi at 17. I find it's slightly more stable than FSB at 210 and multi at 20. I'm just testing stability now. I have been running Prime95 for the last 1 hour and 5 minutes.
   
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on mine, I can bump my clock up pretty high, but whenever i change the multi past 16.5 or 17 it loses stability, so I can vouch for high clocks low multi.

Same here - it seems any time I pushed past 18.5 it wasn't too stable and strange things would happen kookoo.gif
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i run 215x19.5
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on mine, I can bump my clock up pretty high, but whenever i change the multi past 16.5 or 17 it loses stability, so I can vouch for high clocks low multi.

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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

Well at the moment I have mine FSB at 250 and multi at 17. I find it's slightly more stable than FSB at 210 and multi at 20. I'm just testing stability now. I have been running Prime95 for the last 1 hour and 5 minutes.

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Same here - it seems any time I pushed past 18.5 it wasn't too stable and strange things would happen kookoo.gif

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i run 215x19.5

Thanks for those responses guys. As of right now I have my 955 11 1/2 hours prime 95 stable running 3.85Ghz(233*16.5) @ 1.36v(CPU LLC @ ultra high) under load with temps hitting 51*C at one point but hovering right around the 49*C mark 90% of the time. I'm pretty sure that with my ambient temps and case placement I have hit my thermal wall.(Where my case is on my desk I have about an inch of clearance around the top and backside of the case, so I'm almost positive it isn't ventilating the way it should be)

Time to move on to the NB
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