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post #4731 of 9900
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Originally Posted by ozlay View Post

ok thanks he will just have to use onboard or hdmi sound i gess

That sounds like resignation. I see no reason why following the proper procedure wouldn't work. I too have a creative X-FI Extrreme Gamer card I chose not to use in my current machine for reasons I suggested. If I were running a single GPU, no problem, but these Fermi cards get quite toasty. My cards hit 70C under load with the PSU pulling no less than 500W.
post #4732 of 9900
alright so i have question about ram we have the 8350 cpu and was wondering if that supports 2133 natively as in without any overclocking of fsb cuz i cant seem to be able to get it to post at 2133 maybe needs more nb freq and actually i dont know how to evan set the nb freq what it is support to be set to anyways biggrin.gif

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post #4733 of 9900
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Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post

Here is where I have DIGI II, just to give you an idea.
121229092948.BMP 2304k .BMP file

Oh good, now I see where Asus applied the extra +2 on the power distribution implementation. Regular CVFs don't have any special DigiVRM control for the DRAM.

I am curious though how you came to choose certain settings for any that are off of Auto. Is it just trial and error (although I would hope not)? The CPU LLC is one I understand, but some of the others aren't so clear from a when to apply them perspective. I mean, all of those knobs and switches are there for a reason, right. And since we're getting into some decent OC territory, I'm thinking modifying the settings should help.

BTW, the idea of taking those screenshots using F12 is exactly how i deal with capturing settings I don't want to lose. I just keep them tucked away on a USB thumb drive.
post #4734 of 9900
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Originally Posted by ozlay View Post

alright so i have question about ram we have the 8350 cpu and was wondering if that supports 2133 natively as in without any overclocking of fsb cuz i cant seem to be able to get it to post at 2133 maybe needs more nb freq and actually i dont know how to evan set the nb freq what it is support to be set to anyways biggrin.gif

Hi Ozlay. How's that M2N32 doing? Hope it's still treating you well. What a gr8 board.

Your question is basically the same one I just asked recently. Sandman gave a good start of an answer, but I'm not yet in a position to help since I don't fully understand all the interactions myself.

The conventional wisdom here and on the Vishera thread seems to suggest that there isn't much benefit in increasing the speed of the NB interface with AMDs new FX processor line. But if even if you chose to do it, you would need to compensate by increasing the CPU-NB voltage. And without supplemental cooling on the 990FX, this is not a good idea to pursue.

With regard to you actual question, I can offer the following. With this new Samsung DRAM I'm using, there are many posts suggesting these parts will run fine at 2400MHz. What they don't tell you is what the rest of the system is doing. If I have to back off my 4.8GHz CPU speed, I'm not willing to make that tradeoff without good reason. So, when I set Memory speed to 2133, I too saw a failure getting the system to even POST. I didn't want to pursue this path further unless and until I understood what needed to be done in BIOS. Perhaps we will all get some enlightenment.
post #4735 of 9900
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Originally Posted by ozlay View Post

alright so i have question about ram we have the 8350 cpu and was wondering if that supports 2133 natively as in without any overclocking of fsb cuz i cant seem to be able to get it to post at 2133 maybe needs more nb freq and actually i dont know how to evan set the nb freq what it is support to be set to anyways biggrin.gif
formula v -z
specs fx8350 5ghz 1.55v 25x
gskill F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM 1866 7-9-8-24 1.7v
force gt 180gb
580gtx
You will not be able to reach 2133 on that ram without majorly sacrificing cas latency. I would start with 12-12-12-32/2t and raise or lower from there depending on benchmark testing...
Truth is even getting a cas of 10 @ 2133 will cause a loss in performance over 1866 w/ cas 7... approx. 8-10% if I remember rite, will have to look a bit later.
On a side note... 1.55vcore on an 8350 for 5Ghz is a bit high...I also would not run that ram (or any ram for that matter) at 1.7volts for 24/7 use...
What are you trying to achieve here?
 
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post #4736 of 9900
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You will not be able to reach 2133 on that ram without majorly sacrificing cas latency. I would start with 12-12-12-32/2t and raise or lower from there depending on benchmark testing...
Truth is even getting a cas of 10 @ 2133 will cause a loss in performance over 1866 w/ cas 7... approx. 8-10% if I remember rite, will have to look a bit later.
On a side note... 1.55vcore on an 8350 for 5Ghz is a bit high...I also would not run that ram (or any ram for that matter) at 1.7volts for 24/7 use...
What are you trying to achieve here?

1.65v is what the ram is rated i dont think 1.7 is to high also 8350 1.55v i havent installed the microshaft winblows yet once thats done willl lower the volts a bit to find the sweat spot
post #4737 of 9900
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Originally Posted by gr8sho View Post

Hi Ozlay. How's that M2N32 doing? Hope it's still treating you well. What a gr8 board.
Your question is basically the same one I just asked recently. Sandman gave a good start of an answer, but I'm not yet in a position to help since I don't fully understand all the interactions myself.
The conventional wisdom here and on the Vishera thread seems to suggest that there isn't much benefit in increasing the speed of the NB interface with AMDs new FX processor line. But if even if you chose to do it, you would need to compensate by increasing the CPU-NB voltage. And without supplemental cooling on the 990FX, this is not a good idea to pursue.
With regard to you actual question, I can offer the following. With this new Samsung DRAM I'm using, there are many posts suggesting these parts will run fine at 2400MHz. What they don't tell you is what the rest of the system is doing. If I have to back off my 4.8GHz CPU speed, I'm not willing to make that tradeoff without good reason. So, when I set Memory speed to 2133, I too saw a failure getting the system to even POST. I didn't want to pursue this path further unless and until I understood what needed to be done in BIOS. Perhaps we will all get some enlightenment.

yeap hoping to get a quad for the m2n32 soon biggrin.gif
post #4738 of 9900
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yeap hoping to get a quad for the m2n32 soon biggrin.gif

I'm actually quite surprised at the staying power of the Phenom II X4s. They were super chips. I still see the 965s go on sale every so often.

On the topic of the voltages, the suggestion you are getting is to find the lowest operating voltage that gives stable results.
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Hoping someone can help me with this. I did an auto OC with ai suite and now i get these readings and im not sure what to make of this.
Hoping someone here with all this expertice can help a noob out biggrin.gif
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post #4740 of 9900
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Hoping someone can help me with this. I did an auto OC with ai suite and now i get these readings and im not sure what to make of this.
Hoping someone here with all this expertice can help a noob out biggrin.gif

I haven't played with the auto stuff as I initially learned to OC manually. However what I do know from experience is that CPUID software and AISUITE don't play well together. They act as if they both need exclusive access to the hardware sensor readings and spaz out if there's interference. If you want to check voltages and temps with CPUID stuff like HWMONITOR, then quit AISUITE so as not to cause an inadvertent conflict. There are a number of posts you can find via search to learn how to keep AISUITE from autostarting with Windows. You can still run the software but should choose when to run it.

If you're really overclocking that 8150, the Vcore seems low, but if you have CnQ active, it will force the voltage lower in steps at idle. If you lock the OC settings in BIOS, the monitor function there will also give you voltage and temperature readings and I would trust those.

How do you like your H100i?
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