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post #4971 of 9900

just for the record i do not believe anyone can buy 1600MHz ram and run it at 2133MHz with low timings

if you want high frequency ram you will have buy high frequency ram

    
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Well ya; not with low timings---
but 1866 (OEM) to 2k+mhz is "usually" doable with minor timing and voltage adjustments
 
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post #4973 of 9900
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just for the record i do not believe anyone can buy 1600MHz ram and run it at 2133MHz with low timings
if you want high frequency ram you will have buy high frequency ram

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Originally Posted by mrinfinit3 View Post

Well ya; not with low timings---
but 1866 (OEM) to 2k+mhz is "usually" doable with minor timing and voltage adjustments

Then with that same logic, I should be able to run 1600MHz RAM at 1866MHz If you read in NewEgg you'll see people running the RAM at 2000MHz, but they don't say how.

So what would constitute minor timing adjustment from a starting point of 9-9-9-24 @1.5V, and have the CPU upleveled by 20%. And sure, I understand that parts have variability, but most 8350s look to be capable of a 20% overclock. I'm looking for that similar datapoint on good quality 1600MHz G.Skill RAM.
post #4974 of 9900

if these are yours F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR

 

used for reference

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%2050008476%20600006050%20600006130&IsNodeId=1&page=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=147%7C20%2D231%2D460%5E20%2D231%2D460%2DTS%2C20%2D231%2D611%5E20%2D231%2D611%2DTS

 

first i would try setting to 1866 mhz with 9-10-9-28 at 1.6volts and see if it will boot

then try 1866 mhz with 10-11-10-30 at 1.6volts

 

a +0.1 volts for memory is max. and it may be unsafe


Edited by Tweeky - 2/12/13 at 9:03am
    
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post #4975 of 9900
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just for the record i do not believe anyone can buy 1600MHz ram and run it at 2133MHz with low timings
if you want high frequency ram you will have buy high frequency ram

Agreed
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OC: 9-11-10-28-34--1T 1966 1.7v
2133 will boot but not pass memtest/prime
wonder if IMC is capped at 2000 in this case?



Edit? and obviously not useful in my case to OC since the loose timings at current settings give negligible to worse outcomes..have to work on it again someday
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post #4976 of 9900
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if these are yours F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR

used for reference
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%2050008476%20600006050%20600006130&IsNodeId=1&page=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=147%7C20%2D231%2D460%5E20%2D231%2D460%2DTS%2C20%2D231%2D611%5E20%2D231%2D611%2DTS

first i would try setting to 1866 mhz with 9-10-9-28 at 1.6volts and see if it will boot
then try 1866 mhz with 10-11-10-30 at 1.6volts

a +0.1 volts for memory is max. and it may be unsafe

Yes, the RAM in my sig is correct. At the time I bought my Snipers, I settled on the 1600MHz version for no particular reason. What I've noticed with the Digi-VRM function is that the DRAM voltage fluctuates upward as I apply load to the system. So a BIOS setting of 1.6V gets pretty close to 1.65V when I run IBT. And that's what I had to resort to again to run the RAM at the XMP profile settings, increase the voltage over the stock setting of 1.5V.

I have not done much overclocking yet with my new PSU. This may or may not make a difference, only testing will tell. When I run the test, I plan to leave my CPU overclocked. but to get the RAM frequency to increase, I will have to play with the base CPU frequency value and the CPU multiplier to hold the overall target CPU frequency of 4.9GHz. <-- Hope that was clear. biggrin.gif
This is mostly because I want to see how far I can push the RAM in conjunction with the other subsystems also overclocked.
Once I understand better how this works, I will likely jump to 2400MHz RAM.
What seems unnatural to me is backing down timings to get a higher frequency to run.
There have been enough posts here alone to say that it is better to drop the CL down at a lower frequency than vice versa, so I might try seeing if I can run 8-9-8-24 or similar at 1600MHz just for grins. And then of course use some measurement tool to assess the change.

And FWIW, I did try some 1866 runs with Samsung wonder ram and while I could get it to post and boot into Windows, it was completely unstable under a reasonable workload and frustrated me to the point I consider the stuff junk and sent it back. It turned out to be an experiment to see if I could do more with those supposedly good parts could do but turned up empty for me.

Part of what's distracting me now is Dragonborn. wink.gif
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hi guy my new c5f-z with vishera fx8350be biggrin.gif



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Nice! thumb.gif

And welcome.
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Quickie question:

I need to replace the CMOS (BIOS) chip on my Crosshair V Formula motherboard. Running 16 GB Corsair DDR-3 and AMD 6-core 1090T. (It's one of those "Don't ask, Don't tell" things as to why it got zapped. Suffice it to say, that the Duck is not responsible.)

Can anyone speak to the reliability of the latest BIOS #1703 - Reliability, stability, problems?

Should I go with an older BIOS? #1605 or #1503, for example, my logic being older = more tested, more stable ....

http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=Crosshair+V+Formula&hashedid=Ntfy5ioh5wbNOXsP

Thanks all. Much appreciate all your help.

To all my friends in this thread: I have not forgotten you or your kind help in the past. It's just that now I'm a bit more advanced than before, so I'm not so much in need of help. Do think of all of you though. thumb.gif
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Quickie question:

I need to replace the CMOS (BIOS) chip on my Crosshair V Formula motherboard. Running 16 GB Corsair DDR-3 and AMD 6-core 1090T. (It's one of those "Don't ask, Don't tell" things as to why it got zapped. Suffice it to say, that the Duck is not responsible.)

Can anyone speak to the reliability of the latest BIOS #1703 - Reliability, stability, problems?

Should I go with an older BIOS? #1605 or #1503, for example, my logic being older = more tested, more stable ....

http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=Crosshair+V+Formula&hashedid=Ntfy5ioh5wbNOXsP

Thanks all. Much appreciate all your help.

To all my friends in this thread: I have not forgotten you or your kind help in the past. It's just that now I'm a bit more advanced than before, so I'm not so much in need of help. Do think of all of you though. thumb.gif

Hi Incurablegeek, long time no see you !!
I run the latest BIOS, no problems so far.
Your old 1090 is still running in my sons comp thumb.gif
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