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Originally Posted by Limes;12464901 
That doesn't help anything, that would mean I am required internet access to play my games still, also it would render the "Go offline" button when steam tries to connect without a network useless.

If you set steam to launch in offline mode and unplug your network cable, it will do so. A lot of people say offline mode doesn't work, but it does, they just haven't done it right.

And GFWL sucks. poke.gif
post #42 of 64
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Originally Posted by linkin93;12465067 
If you set steam to launch in offline mode and unplug your network cable, it will do so. A lot of people say offline mode doesn't work, but it does, they just haven't done it right.

And GFWL sucks. poke.gif

I don't use GFWL, thats even worse.

That goes against what I said before about how you still need an internet connection. In theory even if I had the games backed up on an external hard drive I would need to go online to go offline. Considering all the connections in the airports were passworded, I couldn't activate it.

Whats the point of this link then?
offline.jpg

Its pretty redundant if the only way to go offline is to go online.
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I meant that after you start in offline mode (you must have steam remember your username and password, then: Steam > Go Offline) then you can remove the cable and it will always start in offline mode until you tell it to go online. (Steam > Go Online)

Infact you won't even need to remove the cable if you do it that way. I said remove the cable to simulate you having no internet, after you've told steam to go offline.
post #44 of 64
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Originally Posted by linkin93;12465184 
I meant that after you start in offline mode (you must have steam remember your username and password, then: Steam > Go Offline) then you can remove the cable and it will always start in offline mode until you tell it to go online. (Steam > Go Online)

Infact you won't even need to remove the cable if you do it that way. I said remove the cable to simulate you having no internet, after you've told steam to go offline.

And once again, I am telling you that going ONLINE to go OFFLINE is redundant. If I don't have internet, steam needs to know that "hey, this user already logged in, we already downloaded his games and data, he should be able to play offline," not go online to tell steam "oh hai, ima go offline nao to play gamez"

You understand my point? I know the procedure to go offline, I am just saying that if I am trapped in an airport unexpectedly with no internet, I have to get internet before I can go offline.
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It's a valid complaint against Steam. I had a similar issue this last week and was miffed I couldn't couldn't play in offline mode, and no i didn't plan on having no internet, I was struck at an airport for 4 hours because of a flight delay.

Still love Steam though, they just need to fix this.
    
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For me (and my 114 games on Steam), it pretty much comes down to being lazy and enjoying the convenience of ALL of my games in one central location, with auto-updates/patches, no need for additional DRM for a lot of games, not having to switch DVDs for all the games I might want to play in one night, an integrated community/friends/chat/store feature, not having to get off my chair and drive to the store to buy the latest game (time, gas), etc....

IMHO, the pros far outweigh the cons of an unlikely (near) future where Steam servers shut down and they give us no access/way to play all of our purchased games offline, or my not having access to the internet for a prolonged period of time.

With the exception of certain games which I WANT to have a physical copy of (certain Collector's Editions, SCII, Crysis 1+2 for example), i've reached a point where i am fairly confident/comfortable with Steam's ability to maintain its servers, and service. After all, they do have something like a 70% share of the entire games digital distribution market. They're simply not going anywhere anytime soon, period.
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post #47 of 64
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Originally Posted by jNSK;12464576 
Steam have already said that if they go out of business, the games on their servers will be distributed to the customers who've bought them as a hard copy before they shut down, or compensated for the loss of the game.
Of course that's what they say now... but if they went bankrupt, all of those obligations go out the window. Basically, they're just saying it to keep people happy - there is no way that a company going out of business would have the funds or motivation to compensate people for lost games.
post #48 of 64
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Originally Posted by Aaron_Henderson;12462782 
I know people will pretty much say something along the lines of "get with the times dude", but I would never buy a digital copy of anything as long as there are retail boxed versions available. I actually feel like I own something. I can hold it in my hand. I can sell it, or let a friend borrow it, etc. I can easily install most of them on the computers in my home that lack an internet connection. I enjoy the box art and reading the game manuals for many games. I can back up my hard copy to an ISO so I have it forever, regardless if the developer or anything has went under. I can't get my entire games library revoked from me over a screw up or misunderstanding (STEAM horror stories). I don't know if all the backing up lending is legal, but I'd rather not get into a piracy discussion in any way. Short version - I will never support digital distribution. I will accept it once it is forced upon me, but never by choice.

if Steam servers go down your going to also lose support for quite a few games which require steam to run(Multiplayer only)
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post #49 of 64
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Originally Posted by SgtSpike;12465471 
Of course that's what they say now... but if they went bankrupt, all of those obligations go out the window. Basically, they're just saying it to keep people happy - there is no way that a company going out of business would have the funds or motivation to compensate people for lost games.

To say that, they would have to prove that they actually have the means to back the claim up.

Such as setting aside a sum of cash to distribute the copies.
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I had a digital download of bad company 2, but i forgot which website i got it from and now i want to play some bc2 rolleyes.gif
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