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post #1031 of 1597
Well....supposedly the bigger number of stages can be overcome by better quality VRMs.........which I suppose makes sense but.....as a consumer how are we supposed to know who has high quality or low quality VRMs?

I don't know.......I'll just pick a big number and a trusted brand until someone tells me otherwise.
    
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Well....supposedly the bigger number of stages can be overcome by better quality VRMs.........which I suppose makes sense but.....as a consumer how are we supposed to know who has high quality or low quality VRMs?
I don't know.......I'll just pick a big number and a trusted brand until someone tells me otherwise.

 

Wait for a good review site (or person) to pop off the heatsink from the VRM's and take a look at the design as well as give you the info you need.

 

Saying a MOSFET can do 60A means nothing. That could be 60A @ 20*C, which means at 50*C it's doing less than 30A.

Like wise, what's the voltage?

 

Your best options are to look for good reviews and see what users are able to overclock like on those boards.

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post #1033 of 1597
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Well the Asrock one was specifically 8+2....so that should be 8 for APU and 2 for IMC......I don't see why they would suddenly change it to some other more confusing method.
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post

You've gotta track traces to the socket and know what pins do what.


Chipset & CPU would dictate the change.

8+2 is easy marketing, they don't care what that means in reality, they just like it as a bullet point on the box since it makes their product more marketable.


Page 6.....
8 + 2 Power Phase Design
http://download.asrock.com/manual/FM2A85X%20Extreme6.pdf


*shrug*


The manual doesn't have any additional information but AFAIK Asrock's MO is not underhanded Power Phase inflation.....


I'll post 15 megapixel pictures when I buy mine........barring any unforeseen financial circumstances.
I'm sure Tater would love to be our trace tracker.


tongue.gif


The HUDSON D4 boards have other differences besides power phases.....like the number of SATA ports.
    
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post #1034 of 1597
One reason my interest in Asrock boards is good performance for a good price...............and tons of SATA ports.
I have....many HDDs.
    
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post #1035 of 1597
Looks like i'm going the asrock route. The only downside is the lack of 110db snr on board audio. But then again, it DOES have support for 2600+mhz ram with OC, and X-Boost looks cool, 15% OC with no work! It says max shared memory 512mb, but i'm sure it will use more via the drivers (like nvidia's hypermemory)
post #1036 of 1597
All that X-Boost stuff is nonsense.

The Asrock Fatal1ty boards have some nice software but otherwise Asrock software is........fun to try once...then uninstall.
Except for the XFast USB one....don't try that one.

Back when I had a Phenom 9500 with the TLB bug......which it did not have......and made my performance go down 15% for the "fix"............Asrock was one of 2 motherboard manufacturers to put out a patch.....for the patch.

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post #1037 of 1597

X-Fast USB is actually much better in this day and age.

 

All it is, is a driver mod that replaces the standard USB driver for windows with one that has a better prioritization stage for large block data transfers.

Ala, larger files (5-6MB+ range) don't congest the pipeline. Since the standard USB driver is more efficient at the smaller file transfers.

 

Also, I'm not saying that AsRock is being underhanded (or that any board maker is.) What I'm saying is that 8+2 (unless specifically said) can mean that it's 8 Phase power for the CPU & 2 Phase power for the IMC or 2 Phase power for the IGP.

 

Since splitting up the power phases into different categories or renaming it something like 6+2+2 would be more confusing to the buyers which want simple and easy to recognize features.

 

That's why AsRock has X-Fast555, Gigabyte had their Ultra Durable 333, MSI with Military Class, etc

Those feature sets change & get modified to include either new things or different things; but they're still called by their initial name (X-Fast, Ultra Durable, Military Class, etc.)

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post #1038 of 1597
XFast USB corrupted the files on my USB flash drive.
I do not personally recommend the feature.

Fatal1ty 1155 Z68 motherboard.....so one of the newer ones.

Your mileage may vary...
    
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I found some interesting info on the MOSFETS that seem to be common on low end and mid range gigabyte boards (2SK3919).


Power dissipation at 100c is 15w. 4x3 setup (4 phase 3 transistor per phase) its good for 120w @ 100c.

The sturdy FET's mentioned for the DFI 790FX board (AOD472) are rated for 25w at 100c. Same VRM config is good for 200w @ 100c.

Just goes to show how much impact quality components can have on a boards power output characteristics.
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990FXA-GD80 shouldn't be safe to OC. Friend blew his GD80 4 times overclocking his 8120 to 4.5ghz.
     
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