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10/17/12 at 6:03pm

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Awesome! Looks like my tech support mail got to them and had them redo the validation tests!

(I sent tech support a message about it and was told that 125W Phenom II initially did not pass validation tests - looks like they were redone).

I emailed them too, also got the generic "125w Phenoms are not validated" response. Good to know they are listening to their customers!

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10/18/12 at 5:35am

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Originally Posted by iamwardicus

I'll ask my questions quickly in this thread as I think they're on topic.
1) Why aren't the AMD boards doing more of the phase counts similar to the newer Intel boards (12 to 16 phase)?
2) What motherboard manufacturer or just 3 motherboards in general are using the best quality power delivery to CPU? I'm wondering as I'm seriously looking at a Piledriver chip, however I want to be sure it can deliver good clean/stable power as I'm sure it will still have a high power draw (when compared to it's Intel competition). Unfortunately I can't find any good motherboard reviews that really dig into the VRM and power circuitry for AMD boards.
Thanks for any info

1.) High Phase count is not needed. That's mostly marketing on the point of newer board makers.

There are some gains to it, especially if you're going the extreme side of things (LN2 / LHe)

2.) Gigabyte, Asus, & Biostar are the best when it comes to power delivery.

AsRock & ECS are actually good makers as well now. Foxconn too, but they hardly do anything high end for AMD or Intel now.

MSI is a can't trust them brand. Their current 990FX line-up is useless and will blow while overclocking 140w PhII x6's & Bulldozer chips

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10/18/12 at 1:15pm

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So is that MSI 990fx lineup including the GD-80? I particularly don't want to blow my cpu but have oc'd well personally with this one. (maybe it's just a lucky board) When researching the mobo, I did see that lower end MSI's had problems but didn't see anything about the gd-80 in there. I guess I'm going to have to get back over 4ghz and prime 95 it and see what happens.

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10/18/12 at 5:22pm

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Yeah, the GD-80 is worthless.

I blew mine with a 4.4Ghz PhII x6. I wouldn't dare put a FX-81xx chip on there.

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Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
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Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
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10/18/12 at 5:43pm

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Well, shoot, and I was so happy with the performance of this thing too... lol. I've had so many tell me negative stuff about MSI products but I just personally have yet to experience it. I have been eyeing that biostar A85W FM2 mobo with a trinity A10 to play with so maybe it's time to do just that. I can't bring myself to get rid of a system that has performed so well for me but I might just throw my 8120 in there out of my fatality rig and see if I can get to 4.5 ghz before it pops. I already have an Asus fx evo mobo standing by anyway so.... Seriously though, is it possible that I just have a gem 990fxa-gd80 or what? How old was yours when it blew, if you don't mind me asking.

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10/18/12 at 5:47pm

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2 or 3 months, I had it a short while before I threw it on the bench.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i5 3570K	Biostar TZ774XE	Power Color AX5770 1GB	4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
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AMD A10-A5800K	ASRock FM2A85X-ITX	Radeon HD7770 1GB	2x8GB 1866mhz C9
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
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Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced	Logitech K400 Trackpad	Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup
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Core i5 3570K	Biostar TZ774XE	Power Color AX5770 1GB	4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
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SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
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10/18/12 at 6:24pm

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Shoot, I bought mine back in july so... I was seriously thinking about passing it down to my oldest son and just run a stock 965 BE with a single 6850 for him to game on instead of buying new. Then I could just buy new for myself or just go back to the fatality rig to do video editing on. What are your thoughts on the 990fx ud3 series by Gigabyte AND have you ever heard of a CoolerMaster Aquagate dual vga liquid cooler? I didn't even know that CM made liquid coolers and I have the chance to get it with all included hard ware for 40 bucks. I thought, depending on the quality of the pump/block units about modifying them to ruin on my 6870/6850 CF setup. Thanks for all of your excellent information.

Here's a shot of the CM

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10/18/12 at 6:28pm

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Are you talkin about this guy?

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=141

Also, for a stock X4 or even overclocked x4; should be fine as long as it's not unlocked to an x6.

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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
Audio	Audio	Other	Other
FiiO E09k QOGIR	FiiO E17 ALPEN	Microsoft Lifecam Studio	Blue Yeti Pro Microphone
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
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Case	Mouse	Audio
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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
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SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
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10/18/12 at 6:34pm

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yeppir, that's the one! I have always had good quality from coolermaster so I thought It was worth the risk of 40 bucks, just for the rad.

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10/18/12 at 6:42pm

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I'd ask the guys over in the water cooling section. I don't know anything specific about it.

Never had a chance to play with it.

I did get to play with the 240mm RAD + 5.25" Bay & Res + CPU block setup (Forgot what it was called, but had a similar name.)

Performance wasn't very good compared to a DIY kit and it cost a bit much; but the build quality was pretty good. Much better than Thermaltake.

For $40, you're not really spending a lot; but make sure it's all in good condition. Gunked up rads, degrading tubes, or stripped fittings can all be an issue.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i5 3570K	Biostar TZ774XE	Power Color AX5770 1GB	4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
Audio	Audio	Other	Other
FiiO E09k QOGIR	FiiO E17 ALPEN	Microsoft Lifecam Studio	Blue Yeti Pro Microphone
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD A10-A5800K	ASRock FM2A85X-ITX	Radeon HD7770 1GB	2x8GB 1866mhz C9
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	32" IPS TV	Logitech K400	Seasonic G360
Case	Mouse	Audio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced	Logitech K400 Trackpad	Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i5 3570K	Biostar TZ774XE	Power Color AX5770 1GB	4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Western Digital Green 2TB	Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB	Lite-On BluRay Drive	Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2212HM	Deck Legend Frost Tactile	Silverstone Strider Plus 750w	Custom Acrylic Test Bed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G500	Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS	Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm	Samson MediaOne 3A
Audio	Audio	Other	Other
FiiO E09k QOGIR	FiiO E17 ALPEN	Microsoft Lifecam Studio	Blue Yeti Pro Microphone
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD A10-A5800K	ASRock FM2A85X-ITX	Radeon HD7770 1GB	2x8GB 1866mhz C9
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB	2TB 5400 RPM	24x DVD Drive	Noctua L9A
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	32" IPS TV	Logitech K400	Seasonic G360
Case	Mouse	Audio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced	Logitech K400 Trackpad	Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup
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