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You have solid capacitors, 8 pin CPU power, and ferrite chokes, on the plus side.

On the bad side, it's 4+1 (instead of 8+1, or more phases/channels), you do not have efficient RDS on, you have an extra mosfet (3 identical chips per channel, those small chipsets) instead of a dedicated mosfet driver (better to have 2 mosfet chips and a 3rd chip that has 8 legs, which controls the mosfet voltage).

My impression is that having solid capacitors and more phases are the most important things. You should read the markets on your MOSFET chips and try to discern the quality of them. From what I understand, the differences between Mosfet chips is how hot will they get, and how well they can handle the heat, with low quality voltage regulator modules being more susceptible to heat and at the same time generating more heat.

If you go to 4 cores or unlock, maybe use heatsinks on them or get a better board. You can look up your board on google, see if people had issues with it blowing out.

How exactly are the "We Recommend" setting figured out on the table? I see boards with 'worse' specs than others being recommended for more than others - at a quick glance.
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post #182 of 1597
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Originally Posted by Belial View Post
You have solid capacitors, 8 pin CPU power, and ferrite chokes, on the plus side.

On the bad side, it's 4+1 (instead of 8+1, or more phases/channels), you do not have efficient RDS on, you have an extra mosfet (3 identical chips per channel, those small chipsets) instead of a dedicated mosfet driver (better to have 2 mosfet chips and a 3rd chip that has 8 legs, which controls the mosfet voltage).

My impression is that having solid capacitors and more phases are the most important things. You should read the markets on your MOSFET chips and try to discern the quality of them. From what I understand, the differences between Mosfet chips is how hot will they get, and how well they can handle the heat, with low quality voltage regulator modules being more susceptible to heat and at the same time generating more heat.

If you go to 4 cores or unlock, maybe use heatsinks on them or get a better board. You can look up your board on google, see if people had issues with it blowing out.

How exactly are the "We Recommend" setting figured out on the table? I see boards with 'worse' specs than others being recommended for more than others - at a quick glance.
The chip with 8 legs is called a driver.

I am not sure how XD did it. Pretty sure it is based on brand history, and "horror stories" for the most part.
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post #183 of 1597
My money is put on the amount of channels (though this depends on the processor and how much voltage is used) as well as MOSFET quality. MOSFETs that are not low RDS usually run much hotter. Having a 3rd transistor chip is much more inefficient and cheap. Solid caps are definitely good too, but even the worst low end motherboards that might be known to blow can have solid caps and they don't make a difference.

The "We recommend" section is based on brand history and horror stories indeed, but also looks at the overall quality, i.e. if the MOSFETs are low RDS or not. You may notice what I deem to be more decent 4+1 boards (i.e. Gigabyte higher-end with low RDS, most ASUS) to be labelled "125W, OC w/cooling" while the other low-end ones (like many ASRock) are labelled "125W, no OC" or otherwise. Changes can be requested and posted here of course.
post #184 of 1597
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will my motherboard explode? http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...M3A785GXH/128M

I couldnt find it specifically on the spreadsheet

I had a really bad experience with Asrock M3A770 DE, maybe i was unlucky but that mobo was complete crap, i had to Clear_Cmos many times just to convince the mobo to POST.
But when my Asus was powered up the first time it POSTed right the way, i'm loving this motherboard, though it is fairly expensive it's not out of reach.
post #185 of 1597
Yo people! what board should i get?

Ive currently got an Asus m3n78-vm with an Amd Athlon II X2 215 and the kind sir above named "xd_1771" pointed out that i needed a new motherboard due to the fact that my cpu is a quad but is locked? and says i need a board that can unlock it... So do any of you guys know which board can do this and wont fry under large overclocks?
    
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post #186 of 1597
For your CPU could be

Gigabyte 770-UD3 v2.x with MOSFET heatsink in case of insane overclock
Gigabyte 770T-UD3 or 770-UD3P -make sure the revision you get is VRM heatsink ready as well even if you may not need it.
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post #187 of 1597
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Originally Posted by Dromihetes View Post
For your CPU could be

Gigabyte 770-UD3 v2.x with MOSFET heatsink in case of insane overclock
Gigabyte 770T-UD3 or 770-UD3P -make sure the revision you get is VRM heatsink ready as well even if you may not need it.
Gigabyte 870-UD3
MSI 790FX-GD70
So any of these can unlock it like he says?
    
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post #188 of 1597
What budget range do you propose?
Remember also, I recommended a new board, but to get a new board to be able to unlock is your choice; it's a definite possibility, but is of course a bonus.
Get anything with SB710 or above and at least a decent 4+1 VRM with heatsinks or an 8+2 VRM and you'd be fine. A 770 or 870 chipset board would be great around $100 range.
post #189 of 1597
What about this: Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P ?

Will this be capable of unlocking it? I believe it is an 8+2, i like it and i just have one question, i dont have an 8 pin connector for the cpu, will it work with just a 4 pin for now till i can get a new psu as well? And it is the sb750 chipset i believe so as long as its above 710 its all good?
    
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That'll work definitely, it'd be a great board if you can find it for a decent price.
Remember to get an Am2+ board if you wish to stick with DDR2, and AM3 if you want DDR3
You can use just a 4-pin for it, I'm pretty sure.
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