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Nice to see it being stickied.
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yay finally stickied

I was getting tired of searching for it lol
     
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Proof of M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Nikos MOSFETS.







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Cool?

Doesn't really prove that they are bad.
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Cool?

Doesn't really prove that they are bad.
Yes indeed ,but when you see Nikos in the VRM area you should take caution ,even if they are heatsinked.

Simply put Nikos mosfets are a marker of the CPU VRM quality ,at least in my opinion.

As for the ones that power fans or whatever auxiliar mobo functions ,they should work thoretically just fine (like any other no name POS as long as they don t overheat).
   
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I think they won't harm anyone in this mobo, as it's 8+2 and load is split between a lot of mosfets.
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Yes indeed ,but when you see Nikos in the VRM area you should take caution ,even if they are heatsinked.

Simply put Nikos mosfets are a marker of the CPU VRM quality ,at least in my opinion.

As for the ones that power fans or whatever auxiliar mobo functions ,they should work thoretically just fine (like any other no name POS as long as they don t overheat).
What if nikos has more than 1 product, and the ones that Msi have used came from a bad run/product? (They might not, I havent researched it that much)

That is like saying that toyota is a bad company because the original prius was a bad car. But as we all know, toyota is not bad at all.
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Remember ASUS boards all-around usually feature anti-VRM-blowup features such as OCP and of course that VRM heatsink
I don't believe MSI does that at all
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What if nikos has more than 1 product, and the ones that Msi have used came from a bad run/product? (They might not, I havent researched it that much)

That is like saying that toyota is a bad company because the original prius was a bad car. But as we all know, toyota is not bad at all.
Go on nikosem site and find me some good MOSFETS for TO 252 ,you wont find some by looking at the RDS On values ,as they are unable to deliver RDS On to the levels other makers do.

Then go on any other site Infineon ,NEC/Renesas ,National and so on ,you will find much better ones ,but more expensive.

You will see that Nikos portofolio of good ,high amperage at 100 Celsius + good disipation MOSFETS ,for that capsule(TO 252) , is close to NULL ,so practically any Nikos MOSFET you would install does not meet the requirements for a proper cheap CPU VRM.

They simply don t make proper MOSFETS for high power applications ,whats to be said more.
Maybe to use safelly a Nikos MOSFET ,in a high amperage aplication you would need to use the MOSFETS with a different encapsulation and a big heatsink ,thing that can t be done on a motherboard.

This Nikos MOSFETS also lack an integrated protection diode (connected between D and S on the mosfet) that you can see on Infineon or NEC mosfets.

I don t think they will start makeing good semiconductors instantly ,as a semiconductor vendor needs years to become what some are now.

I have nothing against Nikos as brand ,but mobo manufacturers should use this MOSFETS where they can do the job for real.Pushing them in the CPU VRM area doesn t help no one.

Practically any user that sees Nikos MOSFETS at work should be aware of the fact that the mobo has a higher risk of failing than a motherboard with something like Infineon or Renesas.
   
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I've got an A785GE with 3+1 phase w/NIKOS MOSFET powering an Athlon II x4 that worries me. However, it did survive 1 month in 40C ambient temps. It's surviving folding@home right now. I do run the stock cooler on the Athlon II x4 as well as positive-pressure the case to enable more cool airflow coming in. Perhaps NIKOS isn't very bad after all; I wouldn't expect them to always be failing right away. This PC has not seen heavy use. In addition, this board is going to be replaced early, I'm making plans to claim an ASUS M4A785-M or similar from OCN marketplace while this A785GE gets paired with an Athlon 2650e (with ridiculously low 15W TDP) for an HTPC
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