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post #511 of 1597
Any idea why the boards with integrated graphics have 8 phase power and those without have 6? I thought the phase count is only CPU+IMC...
Does the phase count affect the north bridge power? SB,PCIe,DDR slots all have their own VRM as well correct?

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post #512 of 1597
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northbridges have their own power phases.

This list does not include them, since it doesn't really matter that much.

I have no idea why ASUS set up their boards like that. Might have something to do with northbridge placement since it is further to the left on the FX boards.
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post #513 of 1597
Depending if the board has an IGP, the NB is usually either a 2 or 2+2 Phase design.
1 Phase for the SB, and then 1+1 phase for the DIMM slots (1 phase per channel/2slots)
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post #514 of 1597
I think the M4A89TD boards were set up as a 6+2 to differentiate and lower cost vs. the higher end Crosshair IV boards.

With the new 900 series lineup, all ASUS boards below 990FX (I think) are a 6+2 phase now. Either way should be fine actually as long as they're heatsinked. Just one may provide somewhat more stable power than the other.
post #515 of 1597
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I think the M4A89TD boards were set up as a 6+2 to differentiate and lower cost vs. the higher end Crosshair IV boards.

With the new 900 series lineup, all ASUS boards below 990FX (I think) are a 6+2 phase now. Either way should be fine actually as long as they're heatsinked. Just one may provide somewhat more stable power than the other.
The 6+2 Phase design from Asus will be fine for just about anything.

Asus' biggest folly is the EPU and VPU chips they add to the board, they can't get Vdroop under control with their boards without some heavy tweaking with LLC.

The power circuitry in and of itself, is fine though.
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post #516 of 1597
thanks guys that confirmed my thoughts perfectly. That being said, for the price I think im going to get a black socket AM3+ board instead of upgrading bios on those older Asus boards.

How important is Vdroop control in the BIOS? The new 990x boards are looking great, Asus M5A99X 6+2 and Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 8+2. Is the gigabyte one better overall, even though it doesn't have the Vdroop control that the asus one does?

Looking to OC the 965 C3 with a 4GB kit of mushkin DDR3-1600 CL7 to 4Gghz+ with OCing the ram to 1800Mhz, hopefully at CL8/9.
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post #517 of 1597
Stable voltage is VERY important to an overclock, so controlling vdroop is very important.
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hello mates.

im new on this forum (but i read you every day) and now with the new Digi+ from asus i have a question

i have now an unlocked 720BE (oced to x4 3.4 1.42vcore) paired with a MA-770T-ud3p from gigabyte (8+2 phases)

the Vdrop is killing me. on full load, i see the vcore drop from 1.42 to 1.40!!! i think its terrible and for this, im looking a new mobo upgrade.

Do you think will be a good option the new Asus (M5A97 evo or pro with 6+2 digi+VRM) or i need to move to the Gigabyte UD5 (8+2 but no LLC)????

6+2 DigiVRM will be ok for a unlocked and Oced AMD????

i will continue reading

thanks for a very interesting post!
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in history, anything labeled EVO is really not excellent for voltage regualtion. Since we haven't had any good reviews of any of the boards, i cannot really offer any other insight.

6+2 will be fine for about anything. Maybe if you wanna run like 1.8v, then you should consider something different.
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in history, anything labeled EVO is really not excellent for voltage regualtion. Since we haven't had any good reviews of any of the boards, i cannot really offer any other insight.

6+2 will be fine for about anything. Maybe if you wanna run like 1.8v, then you should consider something different.

to be honest, 1.8v is little high for my Vendetta2

i only want to eliminate the MORTAL VDROP

you're right, i haven't see any trusted review of this new Phases... and this was my question.

in global terms of powers, is better a 990FX-UD3 or a M5a97 PRO (evo)???
M5a97 with new phases, could beat my old Ma770T-ud3p (8+2)??

i will wait for new reviews.

Thanks Reflex
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