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post #521 of 1597
M5A97 Evo review:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/M5A97_EVO/
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post #522 of 1597
Dropping from 1.42 to 1.4 is most likely due to heat, do you have a Heatsink on the MA770T-UD3P ?

The Asus' board for the 900 Series line-up are really no different than the 800 (and some 700 Series) motherboards, so I would caution against upgrading to them.

The Sabertooth and Crosshair 990FX boards have shown to have Vdroop but LLC to counteract it, and it's not terrible Vdroop like the EVO Boards have.

My ultimate suggestion is to invest in a Heatsink for the MA770T-UD3P and then go from there.
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post #523 of 1597
Hi mate.

yes, i heatskined my VRM yet and vcore continues dropping
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post #524 of 1597
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Originally Posted by darivo View Post
Hi mate.

yes, i heatskined my VRM yet and vcore continues dropping
Well no board is perfect, so Vdroop will happen. a 20mv drop is not bad though.

Do you have a price range for a new board?
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post #525 of 1597
Oh i know the old Ma770t-ud3p isn't the best in the world, and 2 years ago it was at 80€!!!! (i think it was the best over the low profile market)

Now i haven't a price range defined, but i don't want to spend money for a board's features that i will never use.

I have a medium gamer system.
I never will go on Crossfire, and don't upgrade to bulldozer

i think i need a very stable and solid mainboard, which can unlock my CPU (like now)
But with better voltaje control to get my cpu stable in the Vcore (i can go to 3.6 with Vcore 1.42, but with 'casuals' droops, i dont want to set Vcore at 1.45 to be secure if the drop strikes)

Maybe i need to look at new gigabyte 990FX-ud5?; maybe wait some weeks to see the new Asrock and ECS or Biostar?

Thank you

PS: Matas thank you very much for this review, i will read it tomorrow
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post #526 of 1597
AsRock will have a 990FX Extreme 4 out soon that should hit around $180 Mark (USD) or Gigabyte will have the 990FX-UD3 for $150 (USD)

They should be solid options for you.

Gigabyte should have a 970A-UD3 (a direct upgrade from your board) for ~$110 (USD) but it comes stock with a Heatsink now and Gigabyte's newer 8+2 Phase VRM design (only slightly different from what you have now.)
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post #527 of 1597
Hello All.

I had been reading the review of M5a97 from TPU and it seem a nice board.

but they didn't speak about Vdrop and Phases very much time...

also, i found in Xtremesystem Forums, a VERY NICE REVIEW of the new Gigabytes 990 series

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...n-the-test-bed

as you can see, the Vcore in Bios isn't equal to the real Vcore, and while cpu is in heavy load (prime) Vcore drops too!!!
real Vcore: 1.565 idle
Set in bios: 1.525 set
under Heavy load: 1.486 Load

i know he used a very high OC, but i think is unacceptable in a high end board (990FX-ud7 is about 220€)

i think i will wait to ASrock, and then look the market (will be sabertooth a good choice?)
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post #528 of 1597
It's impossible to negate Vdrop; more so because under load, a PSU's 12v voltage drops, then the VRM's have to take that into account and compensate, and then you have to factor in heat, resistance, and other electrical hindrances.
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post #529 of 1597
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it really isn't that terrible.

It is about average for high end amd boards.

If you really don't like it turn on LLC.....
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post #530 of 1597
Hi
I´ve got an MSI 870A-G54, together with an X4 955 running at 4,1 GHz (VCore is 1,45). My graphics card is ASUS 6950 with unlocked shaders running at 1 GHz. My question is, should i decrease my clock a bit on my cpu and gpu, or can the motherboard handle it?
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