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Question is:
Upgrade or not upgrade..
Situation:
Asus Rampage Formula w/e8400 @4ghz
4 GB Gskill @ 1200mhz
480 GTX
750 Corsair PS.

So my above setup has been running 24/7 for the last 3 years or so (minus the v/card upgrade last summer) and it has been running great.

In the last month or so though I've started failing prime95's on occasion, the only way to correct the issue has been to bump the voltage. This is the first time since I purchased it I've had to make any bios changes to keep the system prime95 stable.

So, I've no doubt my processor is starting to show its age and am debating on picking up the 2.8ghz or 3.0ghz quads for my current setup or replace the board, ram, and processor in favor of the newer 1336 chip-set.. Likely place a nice i7 of some flavor in it.

With those thoughts in mind - Do the X48 chip-sets also "wear out"? By putting quad core in this current setup, I am likely to smoke the mother board in the next few months, or could I safely run another year or two with a quad at 4ghz in this?

Currently, none of the games am playing seem to suffer, and my only reason reason for considering the above is because of a processor that is currently beginning to fall off.

Anyone have any direct thoughts to this?

I've not had a chance to do a direct compare on a juiced up i7 vs juiced up 775 quads. I know benchmarks will perform better, but benchmarks are just for score. Several of my friends have stock speed quads, and even though my dual core loses out to them in processing power, my machine is tremendously more "snappy" in the OS and just all around for usage.

Again, I can game with everything on high and find it highly acceptable.. Is it really worth moving to an i7, or will I see a performance bump with say a Q9650 @ 4ghz to be satisfied for the time being?

Lastly - just to repeat, the only reason am considering any of this is because of the slow die on my current 8400 processor, if it wasn't for that issue, I wouldn't even be considering any upgrades..

Appreciate any input =)
post #2 of 12
All hardware have a rated "life" and will wear out

Even the most quality components fail when their life is up. Thats why PSUs are rated in hours and fans and such eventually wear out
post #3 of 12
I think its around 20,000 hours.
post #4 of 12
^^ How did you find that out?
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Originally Posted by Lunchman View Post
Question is:
Upgrade or not upgrade..
Situation:
Asus Rampage Formula w/e8400 @4ghz
4 GB Gskill @ 1200mhz
480 GTX
750 Corsair PS.

So my above setup has been running 24/7 for the last 3 years or so (minus the v/card upgrade last summer) and it has been running great.

In the last month or so though I've started failing prime95's on occasion, the only way to correct the issue has been to bump the voltage. This is the first time since I purchased it I've had to make any bios changes to keep the system prime95 stable.

So, I've no doubt my processor is starting to show its age and am debating on picking up the 2.8ghz or 3.0ghz quads for my current setup or replace the board, ram, and processor in favor of the newer 1336 chip-set.. Likely place a nice i7 of some flavor in it.

With those thoughts in mind - Do the X48 chip-sets also "wear out"? By putting quad core in this current setup, I am likely to smoke the mother board in the next few months, or could I safely run another year or two with a quad at 4ghz in this?

Currently, none of the games am playing seem to suffer, and my only reason reason for considering the above is because of a processor that is currently beginning to fall off.

Anyone have any direct thoughts to this?

I've not had a chance to do a direct compare on a juiced up i7 vs juiced up 775 quads. I know benchmarks will perform better, but benchmarks are just for score. Several of my friends have stock speed quads, and even though my dual core loses out to them in processing power, my machine is tremendously more "snappy" in the OS and just all around for usage.

Again, I can game with everything on high and find it highly acceptable.. Is it really worth moving to an i7, or will I see a performance bump with say a Q9650 @ 4ghz to be satisfied for the time being?

Lastly - just to repeat, the only reason am considering any of this is because of the slow die on my current 8400 processor, if it wasn't for that issue, I wouldn't even be considering any upgrades..

Appreciate any input =)
Get a C2Q & save your $$ for Ivy bridge.

Upgrade when Ivy Bridge comes out.
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Boards can lose their sharpness over time, where they lose their OC ability or eventually flat out die.

I'm with this guy above, you'd be happy with the performance a quad can give you, but you'll need a good Q9550 that can match the 4.x of your E8400. By the time you're sick of a Q9550, there will be much better options for a platform shift.

The caveat is that there is no guaranty your board can do 4.x with a quad, especially if it's degrading, but it's always a gamble with overclocking anything....
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post #7 of 12
I would stay with what you have,

Don't worry about prime stable, undoutably has contributed to the degridation of your chip ...

if need be bump it back a few click and live with

new 1155 boards will be availible soon enough ....

If you like the ROG boards the M4E would be a good choice, although an expencive one ....

2600K's are beast's make no mistake how about a 4.5 to 4.8 24/7 rig with 4 cores and 4 virtuals ..... sound good theres more

with some sick 2200 Mhz RAM and your 480 it would be a formatable platform

with a SSD for your OS it would be flat out sick

IB is a great option as well, but with the recall I don't see this till late fourth quarter at best, They will be a bit more conservative I beleive being this mistake has cost them plenty
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post #8 of 12
Yep, get a q9550 and live with your setup for a little longer. I have a boxed q9550 sitting at home without use, waiting for my striker extreme to fail so I could get another mobo for it =) damn q6600 is just immortal.
    
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post #9 of 12
Go for the q9550, no doubt.
That would be the best bang for the buck for you.

For the price difference for a completly new setup you would still see small improvement in performance.

And, if you've got spare money, get the q9550 plus another gtx 480
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Ok - so current setup -
E8400 now at 3.8ghz - 1.3600V
G.Skill F2-9600CL5-PI 4GB total
425Mhz FSB w/ DDR2@1133

I'd have to check, but am assuming am on the 9x multi for the CPU.

Memory checks out fine, no issues that I can find and I put it in the GF's PC which is a P5Q Pro Turbo w/ an E5400 in it. Was able to run it all night at almost 1200mhz (the ram) and a nice OC to the processor on prime95 plus 4 hours on a memtest. I feel very confident in the memory. Also put her processor yesterday into this Rampage board, and it seemed to OC nicely and ran very stable - although no extended testing.

Am almost positive my issues are just the processor starting to flake some.

The PC sits in a Zalman GT1000 and the CPU has a Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme.

When my current PC gets hot at the older 4ghz speeds, I see the following temps:

Processor - 59-61C
NB - 52-55C
SB - Always sits at 42-44c

The Video card though is damn hot, and have to run a custom fan map on that to even get it to idle nice - idle is usually 45C on the 480. Hot is 75C plus minus a couple depending on the game.

Temp on this system has never been an issue and I try not to let anything reach more then 60c, i'll usually shut down or scale something back if I push more then that (dual monitors w/AIDA64 OSD on the second monitor). Again, that silly 480 is just a cooker though and that has seen 80C or more at times.

I think the MB has had a good life - just don't want to buy a chip, go a few months and smoke the MB - only then to be gifting a nice quad processor to the GF and starting over with RAM/MB/CHIP combo - I'd rather wait as previously mentioned for the IVY chipset before making large purchases..

So, will the 9650 with the higher Multiplier be easier on the MB then the 9550 while trying to reach a stable 4ghz or so clock speed?
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