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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
But it's easy to add another hard drive or a couple of extra sticks of ram later and it doesn't cost you anything extra. Having to replace a PSU a few months later is nothing but wasted money since you are purchasing one twice. It's much better to get a decent (not necessarily a lot more expensive) psu in the beginning and add the additional ram or hard drive space later as more than likely the price of the ram or hard drives will have gone down. It's just plain foolish to cheap out on a PSU in favor of more hard drives or ram. You can run without them, but you can't run without a PSU. The cheapo psu might work for a few months before it starts causing problems, but the chances of it failing is a lot higher than a better quality one. It simply isn't worth trying to save $20 to $25 on a PSU.
I see your point, and agree with it somewhat, but unless a cheap PSU is actually defective, it's not going to explode for no reason in a matter of months.
Do cheap PSU's fail sooner?
Probably yes.
Is it of such a magnitude that it bring their operation expectancy down to months?
Probably not if the rig is under spec and the owner knows they aren't going to be able push the advertised wattage.
I had a Rosewill 500wt I got a year ago. I wouldn't trust it to deal with the load I'm pulling now, but it worked just fine when I had it.
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post #62 of 89
I will say this. I had a cheap PSU before. It ran fine for anout 1 year to 1 year and 2 months, somewhere in that area. Then my computer went off during a power outage and when I went to turn it back on I smelled something burning, and sure enough, it was the PSU.
post #63 of 89
I've been running an Xclio Goodpower (500W) for 3 years now, both on my desktop at home and at work. Zero problems on either machine, even though several people here warned me it'd blow up within 6 months. I love it for a cheapish branded PSU, and laugh at those who run single video card solutions on much more expensive PSU's.

Props to the OP, for standing up against the paranoid OCNers and doing what he wants. I completely agree, everyone around here tends to go bonkers about anything but the top of the top PSU's.
post #64 of 89
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Originally Posted by s-x View Post
And the mods are shepards, with ******* shotguns.
Sigged!

Edit: Also it is my impression that the forum has largely moved towards a "listen to what phaedrus says when it comes to psu" state of mind. If he says it is good or acceptable then you can take him at his word, if he says it's a no go you should probably stay away.
Edited by the.FBI - 2/21/11 at 12:05am
post #65 of 89
But when the difference between the cheapie PSU and a good quality one is on $20 to $25 it just isn't worth it to take the chance. THAT's the point people keep overlooking. While there are some fanboys who will always recommend an overly high power PSU that costs over a hundred bucks, a large percentage of users don't need anything nearly that large. You can get an fairly high quality PSU for around $60-65 so why take a chance on one that is well known to be less than stellar for $40? That is just being foolish and in many cases obstinate and stubborn.
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post #66 of 89
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Originally Posted by Segovax View Post
You better knock on wood.

But seriously a lot of people especially the experts love to knock my PSU but it's just fine even with all the redundancy and it has OCP.



Also this.
People seriously trash talk your PSU?
You have a X-650. Am I reading that right?
Nearly 92% efficiency across all loads.
Very cool and silent at idle (and load, for me)
And they say it's bad?
post #67 of 89
That Rosewill is, as Phaedrus said, a mediocre ATNG made unit, it can, and is running your rig, and should continue to do so without issue for a good few years. It will limit your stable overclocks, and force you to run at higher voltages than you really need because of the poor ripple it no doubt puts out. Unless you're really pushing the limits of your componants it is highly unlikely to damage anything tho.

I spent 6 months or so running on a similar lower end unit, and it worked too. But when I swapped out for a Corsair I could push the chip further and harder and on lower voltages than before. If you're happy with mild clocks, then your PSU will continue to be fine for a year or two.

I would recommend slowly gathering some cash and keeping an eye on Newegg for bargain deals on a top tier unit, but no rush or panic on it. There were some $50 deals on Antec TPNs a few weeks back, hold out for the real bargains, after all, this one is fine at the moment.
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But when the difference between the cheapie PSU and a good quality one is on $20 to $25 it just isn't worth it to take the chance. THAT's the point people keep overlooking. While there are some fanboys who will always recommend an overly high power PSU that costs over a hundred bucks, a large percentage of users don't need anything nearly that large. You can get an fairly high quality PSU for around $60-65 so why take a chance on one that is well known to be less than stellar for $40? That is just being foolish and in many cases obstinate and stubborn.
Firstly, there are many GOOD PSUs to be had for $40.

Secondly, $20-$25 can be a lot of money to someone on a budget. Example: My cousin has two young daughters and not a lot of money, and is attempting to do an upgrade from his older single-core Athlon computer. His budget is $100 (when he finishes saving up that much). $25 is HUGE in his case, and could greatly increase the performance of the system if spent elsewhere. His current video card is an FX 5200, if that gives you any sort of clue.

I was in the same position when selecting my PSU - any money spent on it took away from money for more RAM or a better video card. I don't regret making the choice to buy a cheaper PSU and spend more on a video card, I don't regret it at all.

Not everyone has loads of money to blow. Sure, if you have a $500 budget to do some upgrade, get a decent PSU. But there's still plenty of usable PSUs on the value lineup as well.
post #69 of 89
If you want some serious advice, join people's opinion with reviews, tests and some experts opinion, and you will get the best of it...
Also, you shouldnt brag yet, it's only been 5 months...
People told me that my Nox Urano 600W would die pretty fast too, it's been 4 years and still here... Yet i know that it will die soon enough..
Also when people give advices it's based on personal opinion, experience and so on, and if they recomend a good brand hardware you can't go wrong, it's not just quality, support also counts and most likely if that one is screwed you wont even be able to get a replacement...
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Firstly, there are many GOOD PSUs to be had for $40.

Secondly, $20-$25 can be a lot of money to someone on a budget. Example: My cousin has two young daughters and not a lot of money, and is attempting to do an upgrade from his older single-core Athlon computer. His budget is $100 (when he finishes saving up that much). $25 is HUGE in his case, and could greatly increase the performance of the system if spent elsewhere. His current video card is an FX 5200, if that gives you any sort of clue.

I was in the same position when selecting my PSU - any money spent on it took away from money for more RAM or a better video card. I don't regret making the choice to buy a cheaper PSU and spend more on a video card, I don't regret it at all.

Not everyone has loads of money to blow. Sure, if you have a $500 budget to do some upgrade, get a decent PSU. But there's still plenty of usable PSUs on the value lineup as well.
Are you trying to be obstinate or do you just not get it? Sue $20 to $25 can be a significant amount of money to some people, but when it's the difference between getting an additional hard drive or an extra 4 gigs of ram it's better to get the better PSU and pick up the extra ram later. I don't understand how anyone with any computer savvy at all can't comprehend that. Look at how many people her at OCN will spend over a thousand bucks US on a motherboard, cpu, ram, vid cards, etc. and then claim they can't afford more than $20 for a cheap PSU. It isn't that they can't, it's that they won't, and that is just (for lack of a better word) stupid. The PSU is the single most important piece of hardware in a computer and all too many people treat it as an afterthought. Sure one can get one of the cheapo's and it might work for you, but you the chances of it failing is considerably higher. As far as anyone who knows anything about computers is concerned, if you can't afford a decent PSU you can't afford the rest of the hardware. It's as simple as that and nothing you can say will ever change that fact.
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