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I've seen bargain basement power supplies kill computers, and kill them stone dead, usually the motherboard takes the hit, but I have seen machines with dead hard-drives and graphics cards as well.
That was the quality Rosewill *USED TO* provide. They've stepped their game up with their more recent offerings. They're still not great, but they aren't computer killers any more.
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Lol dude, if you'd chosen Kingwin maybe people wouldn't have killed you (so hard )... They at least have 80+ certification (and I've proven mine has an 81% efficiency at 50% usage)

And yes, I am a Kingwin user, concretely their modular 800W series. Mine's sold By NOX, and it's underrated 20W.
   
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post #73 of 89
I always like to buy good quality hardware. I overlooked my PSU in one of my build. It fried my beloved SSD, exactly at the power connector. The PSU didn't even autoshut off. It still supplies the power even if my SSD is burning. If I did not see it, my whole rig was probably ruined by that cheap generic PSU. Later, I found out that my generic PSU have a very bad SATA power connector. Qulaity is the issue, or probably, IO am just dumb while making the connections.

I think buying a hardware is a case-to-case basis. If you have an $800 mobo, $500 GC, and Intel i7 processor worth $1000, will you be buying a $45 PSU?
    
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post #74 of 89
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post
Lol dude, if you'd chosen Kingwin maybe people wouldn't have killed you (so hard )... They at least have 80+ certification (and I've proven mine has an 81% efficiency at 50% usage)

And yes, I am a Kingwin user, concretely their modular 800W series. Mine's sold By NOX, and it's underrated 20W.
You actually don't own anything from Kingwin. The Nox Urano is made by Superflower, who is also Kingwin's supplier. Your PSU is from the same manufacturer, but never went through Kingwin's hands. And in fact Nox often modifies their Superflower units to optimize them for 240VAC operation, or to make them cheaper. Making them even less related to Kingwin.
post #75 of 89
Right guys... just because your cheap/mediocre PSU's are working that doesn't make them good.
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post #76 of 89
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
Are you trying to be obstinate or do you just not get it? Sue $20 to $25 can be a significant amount of money to some people, but when it's the difference between getting an additional hard drive or an extra 4 gigs of ram it's better to get the better PSU and pick up the extra ram later. I don't understand how anyone with any computer savvy at all can't comprehend that. Look at how many people her at OCN will spend over a thousand bucks US on a motherboard, cpu, ram, vid cards, etc. and then claim they can't afford more than $20 for a cheap PSU. It isn't that they can't, it's that they won't, and that is just (for lack of a better word) stupid. The PSU is the single most important piece of hardware in a computer and all too many people treat it as an afterthought. Sure one can get one of the cheapo's and it might work for you, but you the chances of it failing is considerably higher. As far as anyone who knows anything about computers is concerned, if you can't afford a decent PSU you can't afford the rest of the hardware. It's as simple as that and nothing you can say will ever change that fact.
I still disagree. A perfectly fine PSU for a single video card computer can be had for $30-$40. Sure, if you have the money to blow, get something better, but I would have no problem buying (and permanently keeping) a $40 PSU for a complete build under $500. I'd rather have the 4GB of extra ram (even though you can't buy that much for $25).

And I would love to see PROOF that my Xclio, or similar middle-mark brands, fail so much more often than the top end stuff. I'd expect a little difference, but not considerably higher as you would suggest.

BTW, nice job throwing personal insults into your post.
post #77 of 89
I can tell you that in the last couple years power supply manufactures have stepped up their game, back when I first got into computer repair heavily (2006) I would constantly see dead computers killed by the crappy generic PSU's that OEM's and cheap builders used. Deer and Bestec were the WORST! usually taking motherboards and such with them. If you saw the horror's I have seen you would never skimp too much on PSU's.
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post #78 of 89
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
I found your original thread on this, in the NVidia Graphics Card section. And it was only 2.5 months ago, not 5 months ago.
For everyones edification, the thread from Dec 2010 is located here.
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Especially when he's only had it for 2 months. A lot of cheap junk PSU's would last that long before going belly up.
Who ever said I bought the PSU and the GPU at the same time?

I bought my GTX 460 3 months ago. I have had the PSU since I have had my rig.

I've had it for 5 months now.
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post #79 of 89
Here's the deal. I own both quality PSUs and crappy ones. While all the crappy ones are working flawlessly, I wouldn't trust them with any of my components. Why? Because like anything risky in life, you don't really experience the danger until it's too late. I could insist texting while driving is safe, and a could say "see I've been doing this for years and I have no problems". Inevitably though, I will crash, something which I could have easily avoided if I'd listened to well intentioned advice that driving and texting is dangerous.
     
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I still disagree. A perfectly fine PSU for a single video card computer can be had for $30-$40. Sure, if you have the money to blow, get something better, but I would have no problem buying (and permanently keeping) a $40 PSU for a complete build under $500. I'd rather have the 4GB of extra ram (even though you can't buy that much for $25).

And I would love to see PROOF that my Xclio, or similar middle-mark brands, fail so much more often than the top end stuff. I'd expect a little difference, but not considerably higher as you would suggest.

BTW, nice job throwing personal insults into your post.
You are still missing the point. It wasn't that all $40 psus are bad. I threw those two numbers out as an example (and assumed incorrectly that everyone was intelligent enough to understand that). My point was that if the difference is only $20 to $25 between a known low quality PSU that can't produce it's rated wattage, stays in spec, and has a history of failing and known good quality one that can produce it's rated wattage, stay in spec, and has a history of holding up then one is just wasting money on the cheapo. I chose the $40 and $60 to $65 prices as an example as $40 is what the lower quality RV-500 the OP purchased costs and what a considerably higher quality psu costs. I could have chosen $20 and $40 to $45 dollars as the price points in the example and that would have worked as well.

Am I clear now?
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