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Poll Results: Which laptop should I get?

 
  • 50% (22)
    Lenovo ThinkPad X120e
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    HP Pavilion dm1z (with AMD Fusion)
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post #21 of 58
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Originally Posted by tommy_oliver;12526089 
I think that you need to consider what you want out of this notebook. Hardware is identical, so it really comes down to value on the HP, vs build quality on the Lenovo.

This is still a difficult decision for me as well, as the three most important things to me are design, durability, and battery life. The HP has design and battery life but questionable durability, at least comparatively, and the Lenovo has durability and design with the 3 cell battery but crap battery life. Give it the 6 cell, and you gain battery life but lose the design. Quite the quandary...

Man it'd be awesome if like...ASUS took their aluminum chassis from the 1018p, scaled it up to 11.6", then threw in Zacate. Now that would be a nice laptop...

I'm pretty skeptical of the X120e being better built now. Sure, it's a ThinkPad, but it uses the same materials as the dm1z--matte plastic. Since the hardware is exactly the same, reliability should be the same, too.

Just my 2 cents.
    
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Originally Posted by onoz;12521675 
Thanks man. These are the kind of responses I'm looking for.


According to what I've seen on their websites, the prices aren't far off though. The DM1z is ~$450 without warranty, and the X120e is ~$510 with a warranty. (Base price + CPU upgrade + battery upgrade + bluetooth upgrade)

I agree, though, that the battery sticking out is quite ugly. If anyone else has anything better I'm very open to suggestions.

So my little joke wasn't enough?
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Originally Posted by HybridCore;12527578 
So my little joke wasn't enough?
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Originally Posted by onoz;12472978 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HybridCore;12470142 
You still can do something in 6 minutes tongue.gif.

X120e owner playing WoW: "I'm gonna own you! 1 more minute and you're dead!" *comp shuts down* "Onoz! OMGz! No!"

dm1z owner playing against person: "haha sucker. I win. Forfeit!"
lachen.gif
It made me laugh biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;12526192 
I'm pretty skeptical of the X120e being better built now. Sure, it's a ThinkPad, but it uses the same materials as the dm1z--matte plastic. Since the hardware is exactly the same, reliability should be the same, too.

Just my 2 cents.
How do you know it's the same materials?
 
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Originally Posted by onoz;12528278 
It made me laugh biggrin.gif

Inoz tongue.gif. The X120e looks like plastic though (I think it is). It doesn't have that matte carbon fiber feel and finish. They're probably both plastic but I'd get the dm1z because it's better overall (check the scores vs the X120e) and a 6 min longer battery life which I've explained in my little situation between 2 WoW gamers. The dm1z is actually a good HP since most HP's suck compared to ThinkPads. Get an SSD for it and some better RAM.

offtopic.gif Here's this guy who I see at burger king every friday because I go every friday before swimming for some quick food and he's like the C300 sucks (noting that Micron sucks since they developed the C300) and I'm like eek.gif. I'd get the C300 if you don't mind slow write speeds but the new Performance 3 series from corsair and new vertex (I think it was 3) series are probably best.
Edited by HybridCore - 2/26/11 at 1:23pm
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the DM1z gets about 5 real hours of battery, better specced, and looks more contemporary while selling for $420 or less if youre able to stack coupons.

The Lenovo with it's muted/conservative/basic design has a 'better' touchpad/keyboard and red nipple(oldschool smile.gif). It sells for $399 with less ram, smaller hard drive, and slightly slower cpu( e-240 base model vs. DM1z's e-350). Like everyone else is saying, even with the included 3-cell battery, it sticks out the back like love handles.
Yes, i do like the clean look of thinkpads, just not the x120e specifically. The only real desirable feature for me is the matte/anti-glare screen.
It's available now directly thru Lenovo.

The Sony YB retails at $599+. It looks the best, but offers less performance/battery life compared to the DM1z.
The price is ridiculous.

The 'other' netbook you should really consider is the Asus 1215N /1215PN.
---- atom dualcore but with Nvidia Ion2 /optimus graphics and a 12.1" screen.

I also prefer 13.3" or smaller type netbooks/ultraportables, but keep in mind youre hovering in the $400-$450 15-inch mainstream notebook territory. Price goes up as size goes down per relative performance.

If u can push your budget to $500-$600, Asus's UL30vt/jc/jt is almost the perfect ultraportable.

The alternative is Dell/Alienware's M11x ($549-$599), which
can be found cheaper here tongue.gif

After owning the 1201n(which i enjoyed), and researching all the 'power' netbooks for months, I would still put my hard-earned-money towards the HP DM1z. Did HP have quality issues in the past? Yes, but that was 3 years ago with their (pre-core2duo) DV-1/2/3/4/5/6/7/3xxx/4xxx/5xxx/6xxx/7xxx model lines. Ever since they acquired VoodooPC and came out with the Envy line, their new direction in design and build-quality have gone up considerably. HP's Elite business class notebooks get glowing reviews, and even their value/entry-level G-series (G42/G62) are very popular.
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Originally Posted by cozmo5050;12531221 
the DM1z gets about 5 real hours of battery, better specced, and looks more contemporary while selling for $420 or less if youre able to stack coupons.

The Lenovo with it's muted/conservative/basic design has a 'better' touchpad/keyboard and red nipple(oldschool smile.gif). It sells for $399 with less ram, smaller hard drive, and slightly slower cpu( e-240 base model vs. DM1z's e-350). Like everyone else is saying, even with the included 3-cell battery, it sticks out the back like love handles.
Yes, i do like the clean look of thinkpads, just not the x120e specifically. The only real desirable feature for me is the matte/anti-glare screen.
It's available now directly thru Lenovo.

The Sony YB retails at $599+. It looks the best, but offers less performance/battery life compared to the DM1z.
The price is ridiculous.

The 'other' netbook you should really consider is the Asus 1215N /1215PN.
---- atom dualcore but with Nvidia Ion2 /optimus graphics and a 12.1" screen.

I also prefer 13.3" or smaller type netbooks/ultraportables, but keep in mind youre hovering in the $400-$450 15-inch mainstream notebook territory. Price goes up as size goes down per relative performance.

If u can push your budget to $500-$600, Asus's UL30vt/jc/jt is almost the perfect ultraportable.

The alternative is Dell/Alienware's M11x ($549-$599), which
can be found cheaper here tongue.gif

After owning the 1201n(which i enjoyed), and researching all the 'power' netbooks for months, I would still put my hard-earned-money towards the HP DM1z. Did HP have quality issues in the past? Yes, but that was 3 years ago with their (pre-core2duo) DV-1/2/3/4/5/6/7/3xxx/4xxx/5xxx/6xxx/7xxx model lines. Ever since they acquired VoodooPC and came out with the Envy line, their new direction in design and build-quality have gone up considerably. HP's Elite business class notebooks get glowing reviews, and even their value/entry-level G-series (G42/G62) are very popular.
Hey thanks a lot for these recommendations. I think i might be convinced to push my budget to that UL30vt/jc/jt. How's the battery life? And how does it compare to DM1z in terms of cpu/gpu power? I don't want anything with the Atom's performance because I've seen it before and I don't think I could live with that. I'm under the impression that the DM1z has more power than a dual atom.
 
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Asus's eeePC is nice but they need to give their stuff a more modular look.
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I love my Dm1z.
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Hey thanks a lot for these recommendations. I think i might be convinced to push my budget to that UL30vt/jc/jt. How's the battery life? And how does it compare to DM1z in terms of cpu/gpu power? I don't want anything with the Atom's performance because I've seen it before and I don't think I could live with that. I'm under the impression that the DM1z has more power than a dual atom.

if you have to stay under $450, i say get the HP DM1z.

If u can spend a little bit more, get the Asus UL30vt for around $600.

It comes in 2 configs:
UL30vt-x1(black) with 4400mah battery, about 7 hours
UL30vt-1a(silver) with 5600mah battery, about 9? hours

I own the black version, looks great, w/ the brushed black aluminum lid.
The glossy black finish is nice but fingerprints are noticeable.
The silver version is about $100 more. All other specs are the same.

cpu: intel core2duo su7300 1.3ghz dualcore (factory overclocks to 1.7ghz)
ram: 4gb ddr3
hdd: 500gb 5400rpm seagate momentus 5400.6 sata
gpu: switchable intel 4500HD / Nvidia 210
OS: windows7 64-bit
wifi b/g/n, bluetooth, HDMI/vga out, card reader, 1inch thick, 3.7lbs.

Although older, Intel's Core2Duo 'ULV' ultra low voltage chips will beat out any Atom or AMD netbook chip. The same applies to the Nvidia 210-- not the best graphics card, but much better than anything available on netbooks or onboard video. Plays 1080p with ease. Photoshop/WoW/Starcraft2 run smooth at medium settings.

If u want to spend even more, the JT/JC versions come with Intel i3/i5 processors and Nvidia 310 1gb graphics
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Originally Posted by gooface;12534665 
I love my Dm1z.
Have you ever used an atom-based or dual atom-based netbook? If yes, how does the dm1z compare?
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