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With my unlock, is 68 C on the VRMs at idle, and 85ish at max load OK?
That's pretty risky. Gigabyte's 740G is a 3+1 not of good quality. x3 unlocked should be pretty close to 125W (95W is stock TDP). Ideally VRMs should be around same temp as CPU at load (i.e. I have 125W x6 1055T @ 4Ghz 1.472V. 8+2 phase heatsinked mobo. VRMs 60 at load, CPU temp 60 load and Core temp 51). 106C you say? I'm surprised they didn't blow at that temp I'd recommend backing it down, the high temps will probably degrade the MOSFETs over time. Adding mosfet cooling (heatsinks) May help though.

The extra cores/cache unlocked WILL consume extra TDP. Maybe not extra voltage, but definitely more power. If they didn't consume any extra TDP.... then they wouldn't be unlocked and running.

MSI's VRMs on the majority of AMD boards are garbage sadly.
Sorry for the big scare, but a scare now is better than being scared to death when your PC catches fire and then takes the rest of your house with it.
Edited by xd_1771 - 2/21/11 at 12:13pm
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VRMs should ideally be at the same temp as CPU? Oh, for shame. How long do you think it will last at these temps? At stock, locked, it wasn't all that much lower. I don't need it to last more than 6ish months.
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You're already idling at higher than AMD CPU's max load temp!
At stock locked TDP is 95W vs ~125W with 4 cores unlocked. Of course it wouldn't be much lower. As I said the 74GM-S2 doesn't use quality VRMs (see: "AMD motherboard VRM info" in my sig for more info), it is only rated officially 95W and no higher to begin with.
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The extra cores/cache unlocked WILL consume extra TDP. Maybe not extra voltage, but definitely more power. If they didn't consume any extra TDP.... then they wouldn't be unlocked and running.
Amd Overdrive showed temp readings on my Phenom II's dormant cores and they matched with the active ones. They were ovbiously running.

If unlocking a 95w Athlon II x3 to x4 raises the TDP, then why is my x4 also 95w ? Your logic states that the x3 should have a lower TDP.
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As far as I know, unlocking cores/caches does not up the cpu's TDP. Even if it did, Amd would not rate your mobo as a 145w CPU capable board if it wasn't meant to handle it. As long as your power phase is staying cool, your mobo should be fine.
Uhh...if you're unlocking and using cores that were previously lying dormant, that's DEFINITELY going to up the TDP.
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Uhh...if you're unlocking and using cores that were previously lying dormant, that's DEFINITELY going to up the TDP.
The why are both Athlon II x3 and x4 chips 95w ? If unlocking the cores/ L3 cache increased TDP, then why are my idle and load temps the same ?
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The why are both Athlon II x3 and x4 chips 95w ? If unlocking the cores/ L3 cache increased TDP, then why are my idle and load temps the same ?
Lol at using final fantasy to "load" the CPU.

Prime, OCCT, or Intel Burn Test.
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Amd Overdrive showed temp readings on my Phenom II's dormant cores and they matched with the active ones. They were ovbiously running.

If unlocking a 95w Athlon II x3 to x4 raises the TDP, then why is my x4 also 95w ? Your logic states that the x3 should have a lower TDP.
Weirdly enough that's how the x3 is binned. I would assume TDP raises to 125W with the 4th core unlocked on x3, especially if L3 is unlocked.
Nevertheless despite all this the MOSFET idle temps are really high, that's where I'd be concerned.
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Thank you all for the feedback. I updated to the latest bios today, and now it automatically unlocks it to a quad ACC and core unlock options are disabled in the bios. same default voltage at 1.43?

I've decided to get an AM3 board next week and then will try some overclocking.

The board was free so I may just keep it and the memory to build a lighter system for my parents, maybe an athlon x2 245 or something.
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Lol at using final fantasy to "load" the CPU.

Prime, OCCT, or Intel Burn Test.
I am not using FFXIV to show load temps. I am using it to show how locked/unlocked CPU gaming/bench temps are identical.

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Weirdly enough that's how the x3 is binned. I would assume TDP raises to 125W with the 4th core unlocked on x3, especially if L3 is unlocked.
Nevertheless despite all this the MOSFET idle temps are really high, that's where I'd be concerned.
I still have to think that the TDP stays the same.. lol b/c every 125w Phenom II I've seen, runs 5-10C hotter than my 95w chip.
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