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Hey guys and gals

I've always enjoyed microprocessor and solid state design on a architecture level. I need to pick my route through univ./college soon, and am considering a career in electrical engineering. However, I live in Ontario (around Toronto to be specific) and can't seem to find many employers for what I am really into.

So now here are my questions, if anyone could answer them or give some insight, i would be greatly appreciative.

1, What are some good universities for electrical engineering degrees in regards to Co-Op, teachers and recognition? I would prefer somewhere with low rent or within an hour of Toronto. I finished gr.10 with a 95 average, and i don't quite remember what my sem.1 avg was, but i hope to finish gr11 with at least a 90 average. I'm not exactly sure what it would take to get scholarships at a university, but i hope that would at least warrant me one

2, Should i go for a Bachelor or a Master's? Are the 2 extra years worth it?

3, what are some titles i could look for in regards to microprocessor design? I know there are ASIC engineers, but there must be more that I am missing.

4, Like i said, i couldn't find many employers in Lower Ontario apart from AMD. Anyone have any ideas what the future of AMD and processor design is? I read somewhere that their role is being downsized in many companies.

5, If i can't find a job in lower Ontario, where are some other places where I could find work? I always enjoy having a plan B

6, if I absolutely cannot find a job in processor design, are there any other interesting careers in electrical engineering? I haven't really looked into this yet, but i imagine there should be a few

If someone could answer one (or all ) of my questions, you would really help me out

Dffhkhksg
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1, What are some good universities for electrical engineering degrees in regards to Co-Op, teachers and recognition? I would prefer somewhere with low rent or within an hour of Toronto. I finished gr.10 with a 95 average, and i don't quite remember what my sem.1 avg was, but i hope to finish gr11 with at least a 90 average. I'm not exactly sure what it would take to get scholarships at a university, but i hope that would at least warrant me one

I believe the biggest names for Engineering programmes out east are Waterloo and UofT. Other than that I believe McMaster ranks pretty high but I haven't heard much about Engineering from there. McGill is ranked pretty high as well. One more thing, don't worry about having a "brand name degree". I personally go to a more "regional" school and from what I've seen grads of "regional uni's" are just as employable and one of my friends went to the oil sands for an 8 month co-op (and he's rolling in cash from that).

2, Should i go for a Bachelor or a Master's? Are the 2 extra years worth it?

It's your choice, however I would wait until your 2nd year to get a better understanding of the university system/university life though. Although granted I was thinking of doing a masters in my first year. Also post grad degrees are rarely completed in 2 years from what I've heard. That said that seems to be more so the case for Thesis based masters and not Course based masters (commonly known as a "Terminal Masters Degrees"). As for the question of the extra 2 years, it's probably worth it since you'll be able to show your potential employers more expert knowledge, being able to stick with things when they start to get hard and also the discipline to work on and see through a project on your own (ie. self sufficiency/responsibility).

3, what are some titles i could look for in regards to microprocessor design? I know there are ASIC engineers, but there must be more that I am missing.

No clue. I'm not an EE or CompE.

4, Like i said, i couldn't find many employers in Lower Ontario apart from AMD. Anyone have any ideas what the future of AMD and processor design is? I read somewhere that their role is being downsized in many companies.

Again I don't know.

5, If i can't find a job in lower Ontario, where are some other places where I could find work? I always enjoy having a plan B

RIM (Research In Motion)? They're based out of Waterloo (well.... like you didn't know that), I'm sure they need a lot of EE's, CE's, MechE's, and "Fizzers" (PhysicsEng) to work for them full time. In fact they have a lot of co-op positions available for Math/CS, and Eng students (and even for Business/Marketing/Economics students as well). Otherwise Ontario Power Generation? I don't think you'll be doing hardware though, more so it would be electrical systems and working with CivilE's and MechE's. The telecomms industry needs EE's as well. And if you can't find anywhere else I believe the CF is always looking to pickup some Engineers and you can work in an Engineering unit, or even in SigOP/Sigs (Signals Operations).

6, if I absolutely cannot find a job in processor design, are there any other interesting careers in electrical engineering? I haven't really looked into this yet, but i imagine there should be a few

Sorry missed this question, see above regarding Ontario Power/Telecomms/CF.

If someone could answer one (or all ) of my questions, you would really help me out

Dffhkhksg

Edited by Amor - 2/21/11 at 2:16pm
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For engineering Waterloo is the top school in Canada, if you keep your grades high you shouldn't have any problems getting in. Also pretty much all schools offer some kind of entrance scholarship like: >80% 500$, >85% 1000$, >90% 2000$. You just need to look around and see which ones you qualify for
    
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Hey guys and gals

I've always enjoyed microprocessor and solid state design on a architecture level. I need to pick my route through univ./college soon, and am considering a career in electrical engineering. However, I live in Ontario (around Toronto to be specific) and can't seem to find many employers for what I am really into.

So now here are my questions, if anyone could answer them or give some insight, i would be greatly appreciative.

1, What are some good universities for electrical engineering degrees in regards to Co-Op, teachers and recognition? I would prefer somewhere with low rent or within an hour of Toronto. I finished gr.10 with a 95 average, and i don't quite remember what my sem.1 avg was, but i hope to finish gr11 with at least a 90 average. I'm not exactly sure what it would take to get scholarships at a university, but i hope that would at least warrant me one

I live in the US. I lived in Canada for a short period of time, I could not get into Waterloo because my American education was not strong enough. I graudated High school with an A average.

2, Should i go for a Bachelor or a Master's? Are the 2 extra years worth it?

Both. You have to do your bachelors to do your masters. Starting salary for a masters student is not reachable by someone who has a BS and has worked for 2 years.

I.e. Typical WPI bachelors starting salary is $65k usd, and a typical starting salary for masters is $85-87k. I'm getting these figures from our alumni survey that our school does.

3, what are some titles i could look for in regards to microprocessor design? I know there are ASIC engineers, but there must be more that I am missing.

RISC, post silicon testers, app engineers, .. There are so many. You really don't need to worry about this. The title comes with the job, get your basics in.

4, Like i said, i couldn't find many employers in Lower Ontario apart from AMD. Anyone have any ideas what the future of AMD and processor design is? I read somewhere that their role is being downsized in many companies.

AMD is still holding strong, they always have a fall back onto GPU design. I spoke with their engineers as I am in the process of hunting for a job. Ontario will be more hardware oriented design. They have many entry level positions open there right now. We will see more in 4 years I hope.


5, If i can't find a job in lower Ontario, where are some other places where I could find work? I always enjoy having a plan B

As the guy above me said, RIM is an amazing company that is holding their own right now. There are many many ee companies. ANalog devices.., Texas instruments... Etc.. Just don't have a narrow mind in college and try to focus on all aspects of ece. Try to walk out with a strong skill set

6, if I absolutely cannot find a job in processor design, are there any other interesting careers in electrical engineering? I haven't really looked into this yet, but i imagine there should be a few

There are many aspects to processor design. Usually senior level engineers will be doing the actual design. Don't expect to get out of college and start building the next gen processor. Processor design is a very long drawn out cycle. You will have to start somewhere and make it up.

If you enjoy processor design. You may like embedded systems engineering, microprocessor system design ( motherboard desgin) .. Digital signal processing is fun too. FPGA design for specifically applications. These are some of my favorite subjects.

If someone could answer one (or all ) of my questions, you would really help me out

Dffhkhksg
My answers are in there. College is a lot of fun. Try to intern every summer. I interned every year for my 4 years. I made a lot of connections and learned a lot about corporate politics.

Remember this very important piece of information. learn to use logic analyzers, VHDL test benches, and know how to use an scope in your sleep.

Learn both VHDL and Verilog. State machines, caches and pipelining. I emphasize when I say caches. Memory hierarchy design is a very hard bottleneck in processor design and it affects every aspect.

Walk out with strong skills in C/C++ and assembly language. Do not take assembly language for granted and pass it off as being obsolete. Learn to rely on your Brian before GCC/IAR/ any other compiler.

hope this helped.
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