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    Logitech MX-518.
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    Razer Abyssus.
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post #11 of 21
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post #12 of 21
I believe the MX518 updated added some sort of correction/prediction algorithm on chip that smooths out mouse movements. It helps you draw a straight line. The problem with this is it kills fine aiming capability in FPS games.

A good way to see if your mouse has this and if you even noticed is to open up photoshop, paint, whatever and try to draw a free hand straight line with the mouse. If you nail it with little to no deviation then that feature is built in to your mouse and can interfere with your gaming a bit.

Personally I love my updated mx518. I replaced a Creative Fatal1ty with it so the lighter weight took about a week to adjust to, but other than that it's been great.
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post #13 of 21
I personally use a G500 as my daily clicker, but have briefly uses a friends 518. I prefer the 518/G500 body form to the Razer's. Though as you mentioned, the Razer is very nice.

Ive also used a Razer Imperator and Razer Mamba. While the overall size between the mice was different, the two Razers had the same fit and finish -- which was a great thing to see and hold. But for me, the G500 was more comfortable to hold.

On that note, I'd recommend the 518 over the Razer if you like more heavily sculpted mice.
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post #14 of 21
alright well since you are not answering my question earlier in the thread I will just say this.

If you use a fingertip grip go for either one, although the abyssus will most likely be a little more comfortable for fingertip grip since it is the same shape on both sides.

If you palm grip your mouse then go for the 518, there is no other mouse as comfortable as this for a palm gripper imo.

I use the G500 with fingertip grip, but I still find it comfy. When I first got it however, it was not very comfy and took my fingers a little bit of time to get used to it.
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post #15 of 21
I fingertip my 518 for sure. And I love it haha. Palming it feels sooooo weird to me haha. But thats cause I fingertip it.
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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by hfcobra View Post
alright well since you are not answering my question earlier in the thread I will just say this.

If you use a fingertip grip go for either one, although the abyssus will most likely be a little more comfortable for fingertip grip since it is the same shape on both sides.

If you palm grip your mouse then go for the 518, there is no other mouse as comfortable as this for a palm gripper imo.

I use the G500 with fingertip grip, but I still find it comfy. When I first got it however, it was not very comfy and took my fingers a little bit of time to get used to it.
I hope you dont look at me as a rude arse, but i did wrote it on top. Its claw.

On my current mouse my fingers are as follow. Not that it matters. Thumb on side. Index on left, Middle on Scroll Mostly, Ring and baby on side.
Edited by Gothiq - 2/21/11 at 12:43pm
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post #17 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothiq View Post
I hope you dont look at me as a rude arse, but i did wrote it on top. Its claw.

On my current mouse my fingers are as follow. Not that it matters. Thumb on side. Index on left, Middle on Scroll Mostly, Ring and baby on side.
not at all, I was just saying that since I was leaving my computer for a little bit so I could not wait for an answer right then and I would not be answering for a bit

I use claw/fingertip grip as well and like I said before it took me a little bit to get used to the G500 which is the same shape as the MX518. Now it is as comfortable as can be though, so all is good. You should try whichever you think would be more comfortable though, or maybe try a friend's mouse that is closely shaped to one of the two. I don't think that it will be hard to find someone who has a MX500, 510, 518, G5, or G500 since they all have basically the same shape.

From my long time of looking at mice and just reading up on them I can say that for quality you should go for the Logitech for sure. No one can top their warranty. If something is broken with your mouse then you can just send them an e-mail and they will take care of the problem. Last time I had to send something in to them they just let me keep the old product and sent me a new one in the mail! Great service and a great company. The only thing you need to watch out for is that if you have a problem with your MX518 then when they replace the product usually they send you the most recent version of that mouse, in this case a G500. So keep that in mind.

Razer seems to be good with customer support as well since if you have something that is broken they will replace it too. Although from what I have read about then you must send it in to them first and they will send you back the replacement part afterwards. Also, they are not as lenient for whether or not the mouse is broken. If you told Logitech your mouse had a jutter problem then they would replace it for you and you could be on your way. With Razer I have heard that they just say that things like jitter are how the mouse is supposed to work and is not covered by the warranty. I have not read that in a long time and I doubt they still do that since it is proven that that is a problem with mice but still....

All in all, you should just get whichever mouse is more comfy for you! Go to the local Best Buy and try out some of the mice they have on display there. They should have the G500, G9x, and perhaps even the G700 on display there to try. Some also have Razer products although the one near me does not.


EDIT: Dear lord I did not notice how much I had typed out. Sorry for the wall of text but I think that it is important information that you or anyone else on here could benefit from.
Edited by hfcobra - 2/21/11 at 1:55pm
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post #18 of 21
Mx518:
- Weighs 106 grams
- Strictly a palm grip mouse. It's possible to claw or fingertip, but it won't be as comfortable as a lighter ambidextrous mouse.
- The 2nd revision of this mouse utilizes glitched drivers that actually lower the malfunction and perfect control rates. For the best performance, it's recommended that you avoid installing drivers and bump the polling rate manual.
-The Avago ADNS-3080E sensor produces moderate amounts of mouse correction like a majority of the mice on the planet. Some prefer it, others consider it a disadvantage.

Abyssus:
- Weighs 52 grams
- Small and mainly a finger tip/claw grip mouse. Palm gripers may find this mouse uncomfortable.
- Most of these mice are glitched and are uploaded with the original ADNS- S3888 firmware. Notable problems are cursor jitter and random spazzing.
-Unlike the Deathadder where the problem was fixed via updated firmware, the Abyssus doesn't have onboard memory and these problems remain. Apparently newer shipments are fixed and uploaded with a more up to date ADNS-3888 firmware, although getting one is tougher than it looks.
-The Avago ADNS-3888 produces low amounts of mouse correction. Many considering it an advantage considering you have full control of your cursor movements.


-The sensor performance of the S3888 out weighs the sensor performance of the S3080E when uploaded with a more up to date firmware

-Because you're a claw gripper, the Abyssus will be much more conformable in your hand.


I'm sorry, but I cannot vote on your poll.
Edited by Skylit - 2/21/11 at 2:36pm
post #19 of 21
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Yes i have read some reviews and personal opinions favoring Abyssus over MX in FPS, which i play 99% of time. Plus MX has thumb buttons, which i prefer/not prefer. I dont know for what i will use them for but Abyssus has none, so moving from current to that one wont be pain. I will mail Razer about the problems you told. I'll check the batch numbers to confirm. That is if batch or serial numbers are used to identify bad product. Hell i will be seriously pissed off if my mouse did something wrong :/.
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post #20 of 21
alright good luck with your choice!
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