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Yeah to all of you who think that this is a dumb argument, it's all perspective. What if you bought your PS3 for the soul purpose to run it as a PC and a console? A HTPC/PS3, so then the removal of the either OtherOS or PSN is a core feature. PSN being that ALL games advertise mutiplayer, some even MP based (being the ONLY feature), so it's a core feature. To say you either do this or lose a core feature is WRONG. You can't do that, that's illegal.

This will probably all get settled out of court OR everything will get dropped and both sides "win". This throws a huge loophole in Sony's side, as you can argumentively put a case against this.

Also, a core feature doesn't have to be advertised to be mentioned. There are many core features that are used to run the PS3, if they took some away you might not have a functional system. Were ALL features of the PS3 advertised that are required to maintain and run the system? If that is established as no you have grounds to establish the possiblity that OtherOS is a core function. That puts the user in a choice, which is illegal as has already been defined.
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I own a ps3 and am super happy with it. On that now i hope sony gets blown out of the water on this 1
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post #23 of 172
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Install OS. Install browser. Install Silverlight. BAM. Netflix. Problem solved.


Nothing stopping custom firmware from expanding upon the most recent official firmware.
That's kind of the point... you have to go above and beyond what Sony seems willing to allow in order to just get all of the functionality the system came with. Any time "custom firmware" is the answer to "how do I retain core functionality that the system shipped with?", somebody took a wrong turn.

Also, running Netflix through browser is a large increase in resource overhead, not to mention the browser lacks full, direct RSX (GPU) access, so might as well just hook the wii up and watch netflix on that.
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That's a fail too, you can't run silverlight on any platform outside of Windows or OSX. Trust me, it's not in linux and I'm willing to bet that the "OS" that the PS3 runs won't run it either.
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That's a fail too, you can't run silverlight on any platform outside of Windows or OSX. Trust me, it's not in linux and I'm willing to bet that the "OS" that the PS3 runs won't run it either.
I didn't even think of that, i was speaking more in theoretical terms of "netflix app" compared to "netflix running in plug-in in browser running in OS mode"... obviously the second (even if possible) would be an enormous increase in required resources just to keep the framework for the actual netflix display running on the screen, combined with the limited access to the GPU.
post #26 of 172
So wait, Sony is saying that they give me an option: lose all the bells and whistles my Playstation came with, including hardware-level goodies, or give up the PSN?

That is absolutely disgusting.
post #27 of 172
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periods here of them ?

i r getting toast out on dees threds

sony r whale with in there rights 2 remove 2ndary features n stop people using there network wth changd consoles just as i are well with in my rights 2 add 2ndary stuff n change my console

has be1 overtimed theyre ps3 no then y r we talking bout them
Yeah. I have. Real mature. You are real cool. Lets be friends. Bro.
You are within your rights to add secondary features and modify your console. Go ahead and make it a toaster, grill, or picture frame. You are within your rights to do it. You aren't within your rights allowed to reverse engineer, modify, and redistribute the firmware on it. K? Understand?
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Incorrect, Linux is very well capable of running Silverlight via Moonlight.
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Quote:
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Incorrect, Linux is very well capable of running Silverlight via Moonlight.
Doesn't work with Netflix, that's been established time and time again. Trust me, I know.

[edit] On top of that Siverlight 4.0 can't be ran via Moonlight.
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