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The whole point of removing Linux is pointless NOW since their keys have been hacked, so still taking away Linux serves no purpose other than their stubbornness and disregard for their customers. It's as if Pandora's box has been opened, what's the point of pretending they can keep it closed?
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I guess what leaves a bad taste in my mouth (beyond the Netflix thing, if they would just go back to how it was when it was disc-based I would gladly shut up about that part) is just the way Sony handles things. I mean, since not being on the latest firmware blocks PSN as is, would it really be such a big deal if they said

"Here is firmware 3.56_rev. B, which automatically disables PSN access but restores otherOS capability, with security holes A through X patched. We will continue this line of firmware as more core-OS features and/or security holes are found, but by using this firmware you agree to give up PSN until and unless you return to "Rev.A" branch firmware."

I mean, that's basically where we are at now, with Rev. B being replaced by CFW, but with the downside of the whole piracy angle. Which IMO should be treated, along with the online hacking, as separate issues and addressed on the developer/server end of things.

It just seems as absurd as if Microsoft one day said "We have discovered a potential security hole in Windows Media Player that could allow for running unauthorized code, so we are removing WMP with the next update". Bad PR, ineffective at addressing the root issue, and in general just pissing a lot of customers off.
I understand what you're saying, however the exploit that OtherOS provides isn't just pirated software, but unsigned and dangerous code/applications that can effect users across PSN. That's what Sony is trying to avoid here.

While Microsoft has certainly patched security holes in many of it's applications and not just their OS, I think the real problem lies within so many people using the exploit to cheat, possibly even steal straight from PSN.

The whole thing is getting really messy now, and lines are beginning to blur in certain areas. I don't think it's as simple and black and white as it was a week ago, though I do believe that the greater good is protecting the majority of users from the minority that would exploit them.
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The whole point of removing Linux is pointless NOW since their keys have been hacked, so still taking away Linux serves no purpose other than their stubbornness and disregard for their customers. It's as if Pandora's box has been opened, what's the point of pretending they can keep it closed?
Can't use that in court, it happened after the accusation.
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He's the problem.
I mustve missed something lol
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I knew I'd see Stealth_Pyros and XNine on the last page of this thread.
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Somehow, I'm not surprised.
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+1.
+4

This is turning out to be an interesting case. I don't have a PS3, so, I can't comment on the OtherOS removal part, although, it does sound like you are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to updates. Keep OtherOS and lose the ability to play some games which require newer firmware or update, removing OtherOS and get the ability to play newer games. Such a difficult choice to make especially if you are someone who has used OtherOS, lucky for me, I didn't have to make such a choice XD
    
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Bit of old news but it seems european law did not like this:

http://www.psuni.com/ps3-owner-refun...other-os-3555/

But would this provide further ground for this case?

and
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According to the manual, when Sony Computer Entertainment designed the PS3, "it was fully intended that you, a PS3 owner, could play games, watch movies, view photos, listen to music, and run a full-featured Linux operating system that transforms your PS3 into a home computer."
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6162316....result;title;0
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I mustve missed something lol
I wasn't referring to XNine when I said that:

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I knew I'd see Stealth_Pyros and XNine on the last page of this thread.
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So.... what's the problem?
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He's the problem.
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Bit of old news but it seems european law did not like this:

http://www.psuni.com/ps3-owner-refun...other-os-3555/

But would this provide further ground for this case?

and http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6162316....result;title;0
(Playing devil's advocate)

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when Sony Computer Entertainment designed the PS3, "it was fully intended that you, a PS3 owner, could play games, watch movies, view photos, listen to music, and run a full-featured Linux operating system that transforms your PS3 into a home computer."
It WAS fully intended, and they lived up to their claim, but removed the feature due to security concerns, allowing the customers to choose whether to keep OtherOS or not.
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I wasn't referring to XNine when I said that:
Oh yeah I see it now.
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Oh yeah I see it now.
Apparently several people on these forums aren't too happy having to deal with people who use common sense and logic in their posts.

These people remind me of those hicks from Southpark: "Dey tuk our jobz!" Except "Dey tuk our linux!"

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