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You purchased Apple hardware and you don't think they're gouging you for money?
No, I don't. (I'm also an adult who makes a decent living for himself)

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Also, Windows 7 is really not that bloated, and when you install it you can choose which components you need or do not need installed.
Can do the same on a Mac.

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Pot calling the kettle black. Apple fanboy against Apple hater.
I'm not a fanboy. I'm honest and realistic.
Edited by ForumViewer - 2/22/11 at 7:20am
 
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As far as I can tell, Apple will only take a 30% cut of subscriptions made through the apps bought via the app store. You can still make subscriptions outside of the app store and Apple will receive none of that.

I know 90% of people will just go through the app because its easier, but then 90% of people wont even know, or care that apple will get a chunk of the money from deals made this way. Those who do, will continue subscribing via alternate methods. IMO if apple make it easier for people to subscribe to a particular magazine, why shouldnt they get a cut of the income for their work? Distribution isnt free, even if it is online.

Or have I missed something in that article?
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I wish they'd just let the free market do it's job, let all the publishers go 'if you want our stuff, get it on an Android, Windows, Linux, Kindle, Nook, etc... device'.

Apple would lower the cut if publishers just flat out refused it - remember, they are selling this stuff as a feature, if it dissapears, customers will change platform.

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As far as I can tell, Apple will only take a 30% cut of subscriptions made through the apps bought via the app store. You can still make subscriptions outside of the app store and Apple will receive none of that.

I know 90% of people will just go through the app because its easier, but then 90% of people wont even know, or care that apple will get a chunk of the money from deals made this way. Those who do, will continue subscribing via alternate methods. IMO if apple make it easier for people to subscribe to a particular magazine, why shouldnt they get a cut of the income for their work? Distribution isnt free, even if it is online.

Or have I missed something in that article?
And how long before they update their license to say you are not allowed to sell anything outside the store? The average user doesn't really think about these things either, a fair proportion of their sales will probably go through apple.


If people want to sell on an apple device, they have to accept that apple control that. Don't like it, don't sell on that device - if people care about your service, they'll use another device.
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The fact that Apple can do this with impunity is what's scary. Once upon a time, the store needed developer support. Now the developers need the store. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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I'm not a fanboy. I'm honest and realistic.
....and Fox news is fair and balanced.

I posted a CNN article on this a week ago. Almost all of the US publishers (except NewsCorp, ironically) said "heck no" to Apple's outrageous terms. They were also discussing litigation.
Edited by JasonCz - 2/22/11 at 8:57am
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Also, Windows 7 is really not that bloated, and when you install it you can choose which components you need or do not need installed.
Saying Windows isn't bloated is like saying that 300KG guy who goes to McDonalds 6 times a day is only a tiny bit overweight, case in point...Windows 7 RAM usage with Firefox + less tabs than my Linux box = 1.1GB, Linux with a few tabs open in Chrome 11 dev? 900MB, 1GB if I've been watching heaps of flash stuff.
    
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Saying Windows isn't bloated is like saying that 300KG guy who goes to McDonalds 6 times a day is only a tiny bit overweight, case in point...Windows 7 RAM usage with Firefox + less tabs than my Linux box = 1.1GB, Linux with a few tabs open in Chrome 11 dev? 900MB, 1GB if I've been watching heaps of flash stuff.
Really? You're complaining about 100-200MB of extra RAM usage (and you have 16GB or RAM)?
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*shakes head* As someone who does see the benefit of Apple and some of its products, it really makes me wonder just how far they're willing to go. I understand the need to protect your system from terrible 3rd parties, but really, it's 2011. Open up a little.

30% is pretty outrageous. 10-15% I would say is fair for using their marketplace, servers, and transaction services. I really hope these developers get this taken care of so they can make the money they deserve.
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I agree 100%. Companies should be able to decide what gets put on their products, and charge for it accordingly. Plus, its not as if its hard to install apps from. ahem, other sources
Phone rings "(automated voice) Hello user, this is the automated Apple Store representative. Upon reviewing our records, you are accessing applets and data that we have not received payment for. Press 1 if you wish to have this amount billed to your service provider, press 2 if you wish to pay by credit card, press 3 if you wish to submit proof of payment. No action will result in your phone service being temporarily disconnected until payment has been received and verified. Thank you for purchasing Apple products. Have a nice day."

Give it a few years.


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I'm not a fanboy. I'm honest and realistic.
Unless you're video editing, why would you want a mac?
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Watching Apple fanboys argue is hilarious.

Apple fanboy: Windows is bad because it has X, while OSX doesn't.
Everyone else: Windows actually doesn't have X, the X comes from the user, not the OS
Apple fanboy: Well, OSX doesn't have X either! (complete 180 in logic)



People need to realize that the way your operating system runs is entirely up to you. If you can't handle the freedom that Linux gives, move to Windows. If you can't handle the freedom that Windows gives, move to OSX.

If you think that OSX is better than Windows its only because OSX is doing things for you that you were too technology-impaired to do yourself.
    
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