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Watching Apple fanboys argue is hilarious.

If you think that OSX is better than Windows its only because OSX is doing things for you that you were too technology-impaired to do yourself.
A little OT, but very nicely put.
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I knew Apple was bad but why do developers have to pay for Steve Jobs' cancer treatments?

Die in a fire Apple.
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If you think that OSX is better than Windows its only because OSX is doing things for you that you were too technology-impaired to do yourself.
The thing hard-heads like you fail to understand is that not everyone wants to spend time tinkering and troubleshooting their computer's operating system. I understand this is an enthusiast-type forum, but your overall view on technology and how people use it is very short sighted.

Just as an example:

I recently reloaded OSX on my iMac and after it was done, I had to adjust just a few user settings and install some updates. Total time was easily under an hour.

Doing so on my custom PC takes hours and hours - after installing Vista, downloading the excruciating number of updates, removing the bloat, installing drivers and configuring the OS the way I want it. Not to mention restart after painful restart. I've done this countless times over the years with my custom rig. It's a tiresome process that frankly, I'm not interested in anymore.

Some people just don't have time or desire for all that nonsense. That doesn't make them technology-impaired, fanboys, or ignorant. It's a preference - one that you simply don't get.
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If you think that OSX is better than Windows its only because OSX is doing things for you that you were too technology-impaired to do yourself.
I completely disagree, I'm a techie but made the jump to OS X and I'm not looking back!

I still use Windows 7 everyday and albeit it is much better than XP or Vista, it's still "Windows". There is much about OS X which I like better, a lot of them are little things too, it's more finely tuned as far as I'm concerned.

If you prefer Windows? More power to ya!
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The thing hard-heads like you fail to understand is that not everyone wants to spend time tinkering and troubleshooting their computer's operating system. I understand this is an enthusiast-type forum, but your overall view on technology and how people use it is very short sighted.

Just as an example:

I recently reloaded OSX on my iMac and after it was done, I had to adjust just a few user settings and install some updates. Total time was easily under an hour.

Doing so on my custom PC takes hours and hours - after installing Vista, downloading the excruciating number of updates, removing the bloat, installing drivers and configuring the OS the way I want it. Not to mention restart after painful restart. I've done this countless times over the years with my custom rig. It's a tiresome process that frankly, I'm not interested in anymore.


Some people just don't have time or desire for all that nonsense. That doesn't make them technology-impaired, fanboys, or ignorant. It's a preference - one that you simply don't get.
Either you had terrible pc's or you don't know what you are doing. Doing a fresh install of windows 7 takes a max of an hour to an hour and a half, do the two restarts throughout the setup and bam you are in windows, then install the few drivers that windows doesn't automatically install itself and restart and you are done. I don't know what "bloat" you are talking about considering a fresh install of windows 7 has the bare minimum. You are blowing things completely out of proportion on the windows side and skipping over all the issues on the mac side. You talk about us being fanboys, look in the mirrior.
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Apple is like North Korea. Going totally bonkers and trying to assert as much power(profit) as possible before their Glorious Leader dies.
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Their overpriced products and the profit they make from the other apps wasn't enough. They obviously have nothing else to do than take as much money as possible.
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Doing so on my custom PC takes hours and hours - after installing Vista, downloading the excruciating number of updates, removing the bloat, installing drivers and configuring the OS the way I want it. Not to mention restart after painful restart. I've done this countless times over the years with my custom rig. It's a tiresome process that frankly, I'm not interested in anymore.
Thats exactly my point. It takes me about 20 minutes after install to configure Windows 7 to my liking. That involves updates, audio and video drivers, getting media center working with my tv tuner, installing all of my apps and setting the theme.

Heck even Server 2008 R2 takes less than an hour.

If you can't do that, then its your own fault. Don't blame the operating system.

If you're frustrated with your inability to cope with a Windows environment, then by all means pay Apple to do all of the work for you, but don't confuse paying a premium for a preconfigured computer with any concepts about superiority.

OSX might work a little better out of the box, but in the end, Windows simply does more.


Oh and to keep this on topic, the same thing goes for OSX vs Android. Pretty much everyone that is frustrated with Android hasn't taken the time to configure the device. They simply expect everything to work exactly the way they want it out of the box, which may be true with Sense, MIUI etc.., but Android is an OS that will mold itself to your needs, rather than one that expects you to change your habits to fit the device. You need to take the time to choose your Launcher/Music Player/Browser/etc... and configure it to your needs, and in the end you'll have a much more versatile, useful device than had you stuck to the latest iCrap.
    
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I think that the way Apple stock responds to even the faintest of rumors is a very good indication of an unhealthy ecosystem.
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Thats exactly my point. It takes me about 20 minutes after install to configure Windows 7 to my liking. That involves updates, audio and video drivers, getting media center working with my tv tuner, installing all of my apps and setting the theme.

Heck even Server 2008 R2 takes less than an hour.

If you can't do that, then its your own fault. Don't blame the operating system.

If you're frustrated with your inability to cope with a Windows environment, then by all means pay Apple to do all of the work for you, but don't confuse paying a premium for a preconfigured computer with any concepts about superiority.

OSX might work a little better out of the box, but in the end, Windows simply does more.


Oh and to keep this on topic, the same thing goes for OSX vs Android. Pretty much everyone that is frustrated with Android hasn't taken the time to configure the device. They simply expect everything to work exactly the way they want it out of the box, which may be true with Sense, MIUI etc.., but Android is an OS that will mold itself to your needs, rather than one that expects you to change your habits to fit the device. You need to take the time to choose your Launcher/Music Player/Browser/etc... and configure it to your needs, and in the end you'll have a much more versatile, useful device than had you stuck to the latest iCrap.
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