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post #1851 of 2086
Hey guys long time MIVE owner with some new problems here.

So i just put in another GTX480 in my machine and it's now giving me a major headache. The problem is that i have both my cards in, plus a x1 Firewire card and a x1 SATA card. But i can only get one of them to work, itäs like on of my ports have died mysteriously.

This is how i have my cards setup:

x16_1 GTX480
x1_1 empty (covered)
x16_2 GTX480
x8_3 empty (covered)
x16_4 SATA card /firewire card
x4_1 SATA card/firewire card

Have i missed anything important about this motherboard? I'm starting to get really mad about this right now since i need the firewire card for both soundcard and harddrives and the SATA card for some internal HDD's. Anyone know if i made any mistakes or if my board is due for RMA? mad.gif
post #1852 of 2086
Can I get x16/x16 PCI-E 2.0 by Using the top P67 slot PCI-E and one of the NF200 PCI-E slots?

I want to run dual crossfire but I play online counter strike and I think the NF200 might give delay(?), so online gaming I would only use one card(P67), then single player I use 2 cards.

Also would P67 PCI-E 2.0 x8/x8 saturate 2 AMD 79xx watercooled?

I know Asus recommends using the P67 for dual gpu's.
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Originally Posted by stahlhart View Post

I'm running the 2302 BIOS here with mine, and it's working very well -- best overclocks I've ever had since owning the board.

What PCI-E slots are you running youre 2 GTX670 off?
P67 100%, or NF200 100%, or maybe a combination of the 2?
Edited by grandpatzer - 1/16/13 at 12:06pm
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post #1853 of 2086
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Originally Posted by AlbertMwugabi View Post

x16_1 GTX480
x1_1 empty (covered)
x16_2 GTX480
x8_3 empty (covered)
x16_4 SATA card /firewire card
x4_1 SATA card/firewire card
:

The x16_2 and x16_4 slots are via the NF200 - I wonder if what's happening is some wierdness where when you have a GPU in one of them, you can't have another non-GPU card in the other.

It's also worth mentioning, in case you didn't know, that when either x16_2 or x16_4 are in use (so the NF200 is active) then slot x8_3 is automatically deactivated and unusable.

Conversely, if you're using both slots x16_1 and x8_3 (both native x8 to the CPU if both in use) it seems to me (though I've never tested) that both slots x16_2 and x16_4 will become inactive, because you can't then use the NF200 as you've used up all the available PCIe lanes.

No matter what other slots you use, the two small slots remain active, as they don't have lanes directly to the CPU (nor to the NF200), but rather to the chipset and DMI, so you can populate x16_1, x16_2 and x16_4 with three single-slot GPUs, and still use x1_1 and x4_1 for two other cards as I currently do.

Asus should have documented all this better - it took me ages to figure it out. This diagram might make it clearer: http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/MIVE_PCIe.jpg

When I had two other cards, along with two GPUs, I had both GPUs in the NF200 slots (x16_2 and x16_4), then I had a RAID card in x4_1 at the bottom, and my sound card in x1_1. At that time my GPUs were dual-slot air cooled, so I had to use a PCIe extension (this sort of thing http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31DsgdLOSVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) to extend x4_1 down below the bottom of the second GPU to plug it in, since my case had enough space to mount the socket end of the extension down below the bottom of the motherboard, where there were spare bays in the case for the backplate to mount.

You can try one of two alternatives:

1. Do what I did - use slots x16_2 and x16_4 for the GPUs, put one of the cards in x1_1 above the top GPU, and use an extender to access x4_1 at the bottom.

2. Put the GPUs in x16_2 and x16_4, put one other card in x1_1, and try putting the other in x16_1. I actually suspect it won't work, as otherwise I'd have done that instead of using the extension, but I can't remember 100% so it is maybe worth a try.

If you're going to use option 1 and your case doesn't have spare bays below the motherboard, then I guess if there is space your RAID card could be sited internally without a backplate on the rear of the case, assuming the card itself will fit above your PSU or whatever. You could probably ghetto mount it elsewhere, but the maximum length of PCIe extensions is pretty short - about 15cm if I remember correctly.
Edited by BorisTheSpider - 1/17/13 at 7:40am
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post #1854 of 2086
When connecting 2gpu's to native P67, would there be any delay?
According the diagram there is a Q-Switch x8 between CPU and PCIex16_3.

CPU ---> Q-Switch x8 ---> PCIex16_3

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post #1855 of 2086
I'm pretty sure you can't avoid that switch no matter what board you use, since something has to split up the bandwidth to go from x16 with one card to x8/x8 with two. Whether it adds any latency, I can't be sure, it may just be a simple switching arrangement that happens at BIOS GPU detection and then doesn't do any processing or add any latency.
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post #1856 of 2086
Looks like the NF200 heatsink has a built in fan on MIVE P67.

If I disable PCI-E x16_2 and x16_4, so only using P67 PCI-E, can I then remove that fan cable (passive cooling)?
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post #1857 of 2086
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Originally Posted by grandpatzer View Post

Looks like the NF200 heatsink has a built in fan on MIVE P67.

If I disable PCI-E x16_2 and x16_4, so only using P67 PCI-E, can I then remove that fan cable (passive cooling)?

What fan are you talking about? there is no fan in MIVE P67 or Z68, only a ROG-Logo that has lightning+ 3-pin cable to mobo.
post #1858 of 2086
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What fan are you talking about? there is no fan in MIVE P67 or Z68, only a ROG-Logo that has lightning+ 3-pin cable to mobo.

But what does that 3-pin cable power up?
I assumed there was a fan hidden under the NF200 heatsink.
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post #1859 of 2086
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Originally Posted by grandpatzer View Post

But what does that 3-pin cable power up?
I assumed there was a fan hidden under the NF200 heatsink.

That powers the led lightning that lights the ROG-logo on NF200 heatsink

edit. I used to have GTX570 DCII SLi setup, and i had them on first and fourth pci-e lanes on my mive z68, there was no any problems.
Edited by siffonen - 1/19/13 at 6:50am
post #1860 of 2086
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Originally Posted by grandpatzer View Post

But what does that 3-pin cable power up?
I assumed there was a fan hidden under the NF200 heatsink.

Like he said, it's just for the LED in the ROG logo, I presume it's unpluggable in-case you waterblock the board and want to remove the stock heatsinks (no point on P67 though, it doesn't get very hot).
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