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post #51 of 79
Okay, people really need to chill out here. I think you're coming at the guy too offensively out of incredulity. I'll admit that the OP doesn't sound credible at times, and may not come off professionally, but he's apparently from Hong Kong and appears to speak in broken english. I think these criticisms are petty.

People immediately assumed that the OP doesn't have the equipment, or the ability to understand the content. There was no reason to jump to this conclusion other than that you've seen lots of backyard shop blocks. If he's actually got the equipment and the connections he claims have, then as long as he's got a solid grasp of AutoCAD and heat transfer can take a shot at making a production quality block.

He has every reason to say life is full of surprises.

Everyone has been skeptical to the extreme, which in my opinion is great. You're asking for all kinds of data on the performance of the block before you'll believe he's got something revolutionary. And that's wonderful for later. But he's asking for a tester to validate this and quite obviously won't have a large collection of data until someone takes up the job and obtains the data.

You're asking him to present the evidence that he's asking the community to provide him with. That's completely unfair.

The OP is presenting you with claims of what the block will achieve based on theoretical calculations and possibly computer modelling, most likely. I am in full agreement that the results of his calculations are highly inflated values or the analysis is faulty or the results are being interpreted incorrectly. A 50% improvement in thermal performance is most likely impossible. I think that the people suggesting 5-10% improvements are probably in the ballpark, if the OP truly has something revolutionary. And he might.

But back to the point of the thread... The OP is asking for someone with a 775 and the equipment to test it. Whether his calculations are correct or not hinges on the results that tester will provide. If you truly want to be skeptical and show him his product won't perform well, step up and do an honest, dispassoinate, scientific analysis yourself.

He shouldn't have to go through this kind of criticism and flaming.

To the OP:

I'm with Doom. Don't take the naysayers too seriously. But don't inflate your hopes of what this block can do beyond what is realistic. If you have some revolutionary design, I applaud you, but even the new best-selling block in the world we see every year or two only makes meager improvements on its predecessors. If I'm right and you're getting a 50% improvement in your theoretical calculations, your calculations are wrong. But even if the numbers work out to a 5-10% improvement, you'll still be a very rich man.

Keep at it. Give us more info when you're ready. I hope someone takes on the job. Wish I had a 775 or i'd do it myself.
Edited by sivyr - 2/22/11 at 10:32am
post #52 of 79
He should learn to overclock, buy a 775 and test it himself... it's not hard / expensive at all. If he has the equipment to create a nice block.. that means he has money too
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post #53 of 79
I agree with sivyr. Let's talk about the topic on hand and stop the personal negative comments.

klnospicy, you claim 50% gains on a block that has not been manufacturered or tested yet. What do you have to back your claim? Are you using a fluid/thermodynamics model?


You don't have to reveal what your doing or the design.... but you are making quite bold statements. For that much gain, it would require new concept other than jet impingement and better materials.
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post #54 of 79
Ima agree with lune on this.
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You don't have to reveal what your doing or the design.... but you are making quite bold statements. For that much gain, it would require new concept other than jet impingement and better materials.
This. Companies provide research and papers in exquisite detail all the time often without revealing anything about proprietary technology.
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The only problem he is that he has shown nothing to indicate or even give us the impression what he says is true.

Why does he say he will withhold information?
Sry but that just does not sound credible at all.

And with his "50% more performance than Rasa"statement that he later altered 5 times in despair just proves that.

To me and many other members this is nonsense.
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Quote:
The only problem he is that he has shown nothing to indicate or even give us the impression what he says is true.

Why does he say he will withhold information?
Sry but that just does not sound credible at all.

And with his "50% more performance than Rasa"statement that he later altered 5 times in despair just proves that.
It probably is false. He just can't know until he gets the thing tested.

I'm in full agreement with you that the OP is probably using inflated values, even if he thinks that they're solid, but this thread has been nothing but a celebration in negativity. I'm okay with people being skeptical. I'm not okay with people being rude to the guy, asking him to provide test data he clearly doesn't have.

But you're right. Right now the OP does not sound credible at all, but I just think it's crossing the line to flame him for that. If it's all nonsense, just stop paying attention.

I really hope the OP is able to provide some kind of summary of the features he's using... He doesn't have to tell us anything about the design or even provide a picture, but if he knows what he's doing, he ought to at least talk about some major improvements he has made to existing block designs and what existing blocks might be similar to it in design.

So OP, how 'bout it? I'm a skeptic as much as everyone else about this 50% improvement you claim.
post #58 of 79
If he was serious about this, Martin should be getting a sample of this block soon.
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If he was serious about this, Martin should be getting a sample of this block soon.
Did something change? I thought Martin gave up on running his liquid lab a couple of years ago. I know he's still around but he's not doing the whole testing deal he used to is he?
post #60 of 79
any amd socket would be nice too
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