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In your experience, how often would it be necessary to use this capability? Is the current generation of BIOS capable of shutting things down? I don't want to get a T-Balancer just for the emergency shutdown if the BIOS can reliably do this on its own.
For a CPU, yes the BIOS reliably shuts the system down.. Also the CPU automatically underclocks itself under extreme overheat as well..

GPUs are a different matter entirely. I was wondering about getting an app to shut down based on GPU temps myself..
post #12 of 21
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For a CPU, yes the BIOS reliably shuts the system down.. Also the CPU automatically underclocks itself under extreme overheat as well..

GPUs are a different matter entirely. I was wondering about getting an app to shut down based on GPU temps myself..
GPU's are not that critical they can run hot anyway, just keep it the CPU way
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post #13 of 21
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In your experience, how often would it be necessary to use this capability? Is the current generation of BIOS capable of shutting things down? I don't want to get a T-Balancer just for the emergency shutdown if the BIOS can reliably do this on its own.
I got the T-ban for its control features rather than the shutdown, really just to have a quieter system, they're expensive as well, I got mine on here second hand, AquaComputers make similar devices for less AFAIK, you should check those as well. I was paranoid after I had a pump fail which is why I'm running software shutdown, the chances of windows crashing and a failure in the loop at the same time are pretty slim though.

I've not tried a bios shutdown, I did some testing when I set up Speedfan the first time - with the system at idle and turn the pump off the CPU hits 70C in less than 30 seconds, that's where I got scared and turned it back on.
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post #14 of 21
Honestly, the heat won't kill the hardware anyways. I accidentally left my fans on low speed back when I was on air cooling and the computer simply shuts off when the components get to warm.
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My paranoia began with losing 2 hard drives in a row. I was devastated by the first loss. Having been active on the internet since 1991 and keeping all of my mail...well, losing it was a traumatic blow. I recovered some of my stuff, then the drive I was recovering onto died and nothing was salvageable from it.

So yes, I'm paranoid. I run mirrored data drives for the redundancy and I'm looking to implement a higher level of RAID.

Thanks for the info, Darren9. I'll go look at the AquaComputers gear. Curious, what do you have hooked up to your BigNG?
    
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My paranoia began with losing 2 hard drives in a row. I was devastated by the first loss. Having been active on the internet since 1991 and keeping all of my mail...well, losing it was a traumatic blow. I recovered some of my stuff, then the drive I was recovering onto died and nothing was salvageable from it.

So yes, I'm paranoid. I run mirrored data drives for the redundancy and I'm looking to implement a higher level of RAID.

Thanks for the info, Darren9. I'll go look at the AquaComputers gear. Curious, what do you have hooked up to your BigNG?
Really stop worrying, like charlie said... CPU's and GPU's and everything have safe zones and they will shut down by themselves... so no big deal
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I have 8 fans (2 rads + 3 case) and 4 temp sensors (1 in each loop, chipset heatsink and case). I really only use it to control the fans, they all run down to 600rpm when they aren't needed. The temps are just there because I had them really, I have them displayed on my windows desktop in a Rainmeter config.
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post #18 of 21
I run a cheap and simple software solution w/BIOS backup. I run Real Temp 340 and in the settings area there's an alarm temperature you can set for both CPU and GPU. If either of those temps are exceeded it will fire off a batch file that uses a simple windows shutdown command (with enough switches to gracefully shutdown apps, add a few seconds, etc). I back that up w/BIOS shutdown a few degree's higher (should Real Temp not be running).
post #19 of 21
For the price of a T-balancer and the add on that allows shut down, you could buy a second pump to run in serise making catastrophic failure very unlikely.
    
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post #20 of 21
When is it ever a time to worry about the cpu burning up in a computer?

Isn't there something built into the cpu itself - kind of like self-preservation? It's the communication with the bios that does that, right?

I guess I'm confused as to why or how you can worry - not that Im criticizing you for worrying, I just cant grasp the concept of why you worry when there are failsafes that are already built in to handle that.
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