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Well if I go with the YL I'll get them from Petra's. And I think what you say could be said of all cheap fans, maybe?

Anyways, you're right you need a graph to make sense of it all. And the most confusing part is they all have different settings, so a true comparison of each fan set to the same RPM/CFM isn't really available.

So if you can maybe post an article or explain why it's better (other than reliability, and Petras seems to be universally approved source of Yate Loon) I think I'll go with YL - but, I don't really know much so my mind is far from made up. I was planning to just get the High Speed Versions and lower them if too loud via Speedfan, just to show you what I know of fans.
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Originally Posted by Belial;12491469 
Well if I go with the YL I'll get them from Petra's. And I think what you say could be said of all cheap fans, maybe?

Anyways, you're right you need a graph to make sense of it all. And the most confusing part is they all have different settings, so a true comparison of each fan set to the same RPM/CFM isn't really available.

So if you can maybe post an article or explain why it's better (other than reliability, and Petras seems to be universally approved source of Yate Loon) I think I'll go with YL - but, I don't really know much so my mind is far from made up. I was planning to just get the High Speed Versions and lower them if too loud via Speedfan, just to show you what I know of fans.

Under the watercooled forums, in the essential thread stickies are the FAQs which is the location of all the Fan Roundups. You should check them out, sooo much info.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/859483-round-6-fan-testing-working-thread.html

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/859483-round-6-fan-testing-working-thread-2.html#post11247353

It seems ppl stick to what they know and this fan seems to not be very well known, but imo it's a superb fan for the price. If money is not an issue I would and do use GTs for my radiators. But for everything else I use AC F12s.
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Originally Posted by Martinm210;11247353 
Arctic Cooling F12

I bought this one myself, because it was cheap and I like the # of blades for pressure...I also never had an arctic cooling fan, so I wanted to try one out.

Turns out very promising, perhaps a yate loon/value fan contender costing only around $9 or so..smile.gif

PACKAGING
Very minimalist, but they do have color printing on the little box. Also a little instruction manual, some case screws, and stickers. The wires do not come sleeved, but it does come with a daisy chain PWM plug. Apparently you can run these in series off of one PWM controller.

VALUE
I'm always on the hunt for value fans. Googling this fan brings up a cost of around $5-8, but I've seen it typically selling for $9 which is what I paid. So, it's not quite the same value as the $5-6 yates, but it is under the $10 mark. It's a good value.

WIRE GAUGE
If there was one thing I really don't like, it's the exceptionally thin wires. By far the lightest gauge wires I've seen on a fan, it's probably adequate for the current needs, but be careful...would be really easy to break if you tug too hard or shut it in a case door.

NOISE LEVEL
Was very good and perhaps very slightly better than the Yate medium. The test gave about 1dBA lower noise levels for the same performance CFM level as compared to the Yate.

NOISE QUALITY
Very good in most areas, but there were a couple of voltage points where it seems the fan blades created a low frequency pulsing type sound. But..outside of those couple of iffy spots the noise quality was very good. The higher number of blades seemed to really smooth out the fan chop and I never really heard any apparent motor type noises.

EFFICIENCY
Not very good, it actually consumed about 50% more power per CFM than the yate, this is probably due to the smaller motor and larger/greater # of fan blades.

MOTOR HUB SIZE
Just wanted to note this fan hub motor is actually smaller than most 25mm fans. This should be good for reducing fan hub dead spots.

CFM per RPM
Did very well, better than the yate medium by a bit.

OVERALL
I'm fairly impressed for the price. It's right up there with the yates & Zalman for being a good quality value fan. The PWM daisy chain feature would also be nice in some installations. My only real complaint with this fan is the tiny gauge wires.

I give it a thumbs up for value fan with smooth sound and better than yate looks:thumb:

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post #13 of 15
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Price is an issue. I have room for 6 fans in my case and I'm only using the single stock fan. Why would I buy a single expensive fan if 2 horrible, cheapo fans would be more powerful and quieter (both under-utilized). And I'm not going to get up to 6 fans total anytime soon. Plus, I have plenty of space to install fans that aren't exactly fan positions, like my empty drive bays or on the case bottom with some saw-work.

That, and I'm also pretty low budget. $10 is probably the most I'd spend, but when you get down to it I don't see how even the lowest quality fans would be beat by a single high quality fan, so with that in mind the cheaper the better right? As for some fans having higher CFMs, they are louder and set at different settings, so I can just overvolt or use speedfan or whatever to make them faster/louder/more powerful
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Actually considering that I don't have to go through Petras or worry about bad batches/fakes with that Artic Cooling (right?) it may be cheaper to go with that.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=FO&scriteria=AA77210

On the other hand: It seems to be comparable to the low speed Yates, and I may be wanting to go for the Medium speed Yates (according to speedfan my NZXT Case fan is loud at 3.3k RPM, low at 80% 2.8k, and inaudible at 60% 2.0k RPM and I'm sure all these budget fans are similar when you get down to it, plus this fan is rated good too ) 1350 may be too low of an RPM - after all, I'm going for performance and going to use Speedfan is the sound is 'that bad'.
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I have only 2 peripheral Molex left on my PSU. But I noticed that fans have '3 to 4 pin pass through' - does this mean I can create a tango line of like 4 fans to a single molex, connecting successive fans on each pass through?

Is it possible that I do this tango line of successive fans from the 3 pin that's connected to my motherboard system fan 1, and then connect a fan to it's molex pass through, and then another, and another? Would this allow fan control via bios?

Could I do that if I used 2 fans instead of 1 on a Hyper 212? Have a 3 pin in the CPU fan socket, then on the pass through molex on it, connect another fan? Although for some reason I am unable to control my HSF fan, even though I see it in speedfan and various programs ;/

I was wondering that maybe I should just buy a Hyper 212 and a few Yate Loons, as opposed to more yate loons.
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Colonial Blue Paracord Sleeving 
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Phenom ii X4 955C2, $31, 5 broken pins, works! ... Biostar A770e3 6.3 Red&Black MSI GTX 460 768mb Twin Frozr II 2 x 2GB Kingston HyperX 1333 OC to 1348CL7@1.65v 
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Intel X25-M G2 80GB SSD NH-D14 SE2011 6 x Case Fans (4 x YL-M, NZXT case fan, CM Hype... Jerryrigged Chipset-Northbridge 80mm HSF 
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Jerryrigged VRM Heatsink (sawed off stock AM2 h... Hax'd W7 Ultimate 64bit Sanyo DP19640 19"1360x768 Ducky Cherry Browns 10keyless 
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Antec Earthwatts 430D NZXT Gamma Steelseries Kinzu Optical Steelseries Blizzcon Diablo 3 
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