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Not sure if troll.


Pretty certain HT doesn't hinder performance on F@H, I love me some multi-threaded action.
F@H is good with parallel processing..
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There are so many threads and new reports about this stupid 1000core processor.

Why?

I heard it works 20x times better then our current processors but it has 166x more cores!

Thats horrible!

In my computer alone i have 547 cores..

(GTX 465, GTX 260, Phen II, Nf750 Chipset)
Can you write code that will utilize every single one of your cores?

If yes, how many additional lines of code, functions, libraries, concurrency issues, and performance optimization did it take?

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Originally Posted by StuffStuff1 View Post
Its bairlly a prototype Nvidia and ATI had them beat for years. The only difference is that it can use the x86 instruction set.

Thats what i mean by it not impressive.
Since when has NVIDIA or ATI have a x86 chip?

NVIDIA has a C++ supported chip as of only last year.


You do not understand the purpose of this chip. It is for Intel R&D to test out an architecture. If you think multi-core chip design is easy, you are not qualified to comment on the topic.

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Yea but do they out weight the fact that its super expensive super hot and super fragile?
Super expensive? Last I checked, it was free.
Super hot? It is a un-refined test chip and it is about performance/watt.... not about temperatures.
Super Fragile? What does this even mean? Do you drop your CPUs regularly?
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^^
That.

Comparing Shader cores to CPU cores is like comparing 500 pigeons to 4 turkey vultures.
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I'd like to know how you derived at that analogy.
    
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Can you write code that will utilize every single one of your cores?

If yes, how many additional lines of code, functions, libraries, concurrency issues, and performance optimization did it take?
I cant but programmers are expected to.

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Since when has NVIDIA or ATI have a x86 chip?

NVIDIA has a C++ supported chip as of only last year.


You do not understand the purpose of this chip. It is for Intel R&D to test out an architecture. If you think multi-core chip design is easy, you are not qualified to comment on the topic.
Re-read. I never said Nvidia or ATi make x86 chips. I said thats only difference (Essentially)
No chip design is easy multi core or not.
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Super expensive? Last I checked, it was free.
The production cost would be enormance. Think about howmuch it cost one chip. I can imagine that the die of the 1000 core chp would be rather large and complex.
Which means:
Less chip per platter
Higher chance of a dead chip

I think these two factors will greatly affect the chips cost
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Super hot? It is a un-refined test chip and it is about performance/watt.... not about temperatures.
I made a bit assumption here based on the fact that multi core chips like the 480 get really really hot. I would also expect a chip that run 20x faster then any other chip to run considerably hotter.
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Super Fragile? What does this even mean? Do you drop your CPUs regularly?
A complex chip probably has a higher chance of not working.


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^^
That.

Comparing Shader cores to CPU cores is like comparing 500 pigeons to 4 turkey vultures.
your right i forgot GPU chips dont use transistors and that the core function of a chip is not to do math
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Please don't argue with DuckieHo, he'll have you stitched up in no time and he already has.
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Please don't argue with DuckieHo, he'll have you stitched up in no time and he already has.
umm.. no
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There are so many threads and new reports about this stupid 1000core processor.

Why?

I heard it works 20x times better then our current processors but it has 166x more cores!

Thats horrible!

In my computer alone i have 547 cores..

(GTX 465, GTX 260, Phen II, Nf750 Chipset)
The answer to your question is simple, there are so many threads/reports on all new tech, take bulldozer for example it has so many threads with little or no information people just love wondering what it's capabilities will be.
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The answer to your question is simple, there are so many threads/reports on all new tech, take bulldozer for example it has so many threads with little or no information people just love wondering what it's capabilities will be.
1000 core CPU is from a official release.

Bulldozer is mostly speculation..

But yes i know what you mean.
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We can all see where you're coming from but you've got to think about it this way, they aspire to create these massively powerful chips and all that, which is what we need, if we didn't have the aspirations of people and the greed of the general public for something more powerful then we probably wouldn't have the basic laptops that we do today So let them create these 1000 core chips and all this because when they've got it down and they're 166x as strong as our current one's, you're going to be glad that they started all the way down the line

Also another note, There is one thing you shouldn't do on this forum, that's argue with Duckie, every thread I've gone into and there's been a flame war as such involving Duckie, he's always the one to come out on top!
    
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